Goodwin Auction has some very nice cards...

[chiprop]

Why does Beckett have more than one grading co? I don't have any cards graded by them. Is one better than the other?

[calvindog]

LOL. Case in point.

[terjung]

I was a bit surprised to see cards graded by "SBC". I am not familiar with them, but it seems clear based on the grading scale that they are using (1 - 100 ... with 88 and 96 showing prominently) and the similarity in name to SGC that they are trying to be a "me too."

[botn]

SBC was around in the late 80s and early 90s. The only other grading company was Alan Hager's, ASA. They pre-date both PSA and SGC.

[calvindog]

Why on earth wouldn't the cards be crossed to SGC or PSA?

[chiprop]

Jeff- I think we know the answer to your question.

I'm wondering why a company would have 2 or more grading services? Anyone? And if a company has more than one service, can we trust either one?

update -NY up 2 in the 5th

[chiprop]

How about GAI? I am always a bit hesitant to buy a GAI card. Why haven't those been crossed to PSA or SGC? At least GAI has some credibility.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by chiprop

Jeff- I think we know the answer to your question.

The obvious answer is that they won't cross, right?

[zippy]

Originally Posted by botn

SBC was around in the late 80s and early 90s. The only other grading company was Alan Hager's, ASA. They pre-date both PSA and SGC.

Not exactly
Lou Costanzo & myself started a grading service in the late 80's
Shortlived of course as the hobby wasn't ready yet for something that radical
Dealers wanted to sell their over graded cards & work on 200-500% markups

Also before even Al Hagar was a Jewelry dealer out of Utah
He was grading cards around 1984
Didn't last long but he didn't go out business because of lack of business
but because of me
I sent him $8800 in cards to get graded
When they shipped the cards back to me via UPS his employee only insured it for $100 & of course the parcel got lost
I asked for my money
Said he didn't have it
So my friend called him & said we would be there within 24 hrs to "collect"
I called him the next day & the phone was disconnected & found out he moved out that day never to be seen again
So much for the Hobbys 1st grading service

Originally Posted by zippy

Not exactly
Lou Costanzo & myself started a grading service in the late 80's
Shortlived of course as the hobby wasn't ready yet for something that radical
Dealers wanted to sell their over graded cards & work on 200-500% markups

Also before even Al Hagar was a Jewelry dealer out of Utah
He was grading cards around 1984
Didn't last long but he didn't go out business because of lack of business
but because of me
I sent him $8800 in cards to get graded
When they shipped the cards back to me via UPS his employee only insured it for $100 & of course the parcel got lost
I asked for my money
Said he didn't have it
So my friend called him & said we would be there within 24 hrs to "collect"
I called him the next day & the phone was disconnected & found out he moved out that day never to be seen again
So much for the Hobbys 1st grading service

"You don't say" That is very interesting. I wonder if anyone here knows Al or his where abouts.

[Jim VB]

I heard a rumor, that more than one board member has been told that their "bidding privileges have been revoked."

Anyone else think it's a bad business practice to start blocking active bidders, especially those that actually pay for their winning lots?

Seems to me that the members of this board make up a pretty good chunk of the vintage market. I would think twice about consigning to a company that didn't freely allow reputable Net54 members to bid.

I didn't think anyone said anything bad enough to blocked.

(And no, it's not who you all think it is.)