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[mdschulze]

I've never held a Buyback card so I don't understand how a person could remove one card and replace it with another without tearing up the holder. Obviously it can be done! I can imagine that collectors would be pissed to find that cards in their collections aren't truly Buybacks, especially after paying the additional expense for the card.

Additionally, I'm no attorney, but this seems to me like an implied infringement of some sort. It doesn't matter that the seller is not labeling the card as a Buyback, but displaying the photo or scan with the Buyback frame obviously implies that it is one. I wonder if Topps would have a legal issue with this as well? Thanks for the post and the fine examples.

[egbeachley]

Buy the holder, not the card

[asoriano]

Just from doing a quick eBay search, it clearly shows that the seller is buying the T206's raw and inserting them into the "Topps 206" holders.

Nice work, Jantz.

[Jantz]

Here you go Frank. Sorry I don't know how to linky.

Raw Burch Auction - 150380289975

Topps Auto Auction - 230388469910

Current Combination Auction - 110449713462

All you have to do next is look at the seller's feedback under the "Feedback as a Buyer" tab and you will see all the transactions.

Jantz

[FrankWakefield]

Birch card won... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1


The winning of the Topps holder... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

The same Birch card, now in a Topps 206 holder, and I have a bid in on it... http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-T206-TOPPS-...3D10%26ps%3D63

And it looks like the winner of the Birch card and the seller of the Birch in Topps card have the same feedback. Jantz has sussed something out, guys!!! Impressive. And I hope I win that "reloaded" Birch card.

[Matt]

Jantz - great catch and thanks for posting it. My concern whenever I see this kind of thing is that even though this is somewhat benign, if he's doing this, who knows what else he's doing...

[Jantz]

Frank - Thank you for posting the links

Matt - I totally agree with you.

Jantz

[FrankWakefield]

You're welcome, Jantz. I thought that would make it easier for folks to figure it all out.

The seller never mentions Topps. It isn't mentioned in the listing, the description, not anywhere. It's just there in the image...

Seems like the Topps holders would be slightly different for old cards, new signed cards, bat bit cards... are they different, or all the same?

[lharri3600]

First allow me to thank the person who found this on ebay. I've dealt with some of you and i have talked to some in the past. I'm in agreement with him this is dead wrong. However i need to say that my brother who handles the ebay side of our business has done this thing not i. I have the utmost amountof respect for the hobby and would never attempt to pull a stunt like this. I mean i already own 2 t206 sets at this time. Money is not an object for me not this point in my life. Why? Cancer has said so!! Thats my reason for selling my cards off. I have told him to take down the ones he put in holders. Infact i'm going to check our purchase records and see which ones i bought from bertfro(his ebay handle) a few years ago. If i see any one not purchased from bert or any other person, they will be taken off. Again those here on 54 that know me know i am a man on strong conviction and a man of integerity.
I guess that's all i can say.
Larry

[calvindog]

Did I tell you guys I lost my virginity to a girl from Canada when I was at sleepaway camp when I was 14? Really. Oh, you don't believe me?

[V117collector]

Originally Posted by lharri3600

First allow me to thank the person who found this on ebay. I've dealt with some of you and i have talked to some in the past. I'm in agreement with him this is dead wrong. However i need to say that my brother who handles the ebay side of our business has done this thing not i. I have the utmost amountof respect for the hobby and would never attempt to pull a stunt like this. I mean i already own 2 t206 sets at this time. Money is not an object for me not this point in my life. Why? Cancer has said so!! Thats my reason for selling my cards off. I have told him to take down the ones he put in holders. Infact i'm going to check our purchase records and see which ones i bought from bertfro(his ebay handle) a few years ago. If i see any one not purchased from bert or any other person, they will be taken off. Again those here on 54 that know me know i am a man on strong conviction and a man of integerity.
I guess that's all i can say.
Larry

All I can say is awesome job Jant, keep up the good work!!! Maybe it time to change' all passwords as well...