E93 Black & White Cobb

[barrysloate]

As I said Richard, SGC took a leap of faith. It very well may be exactly what the label says, but we don't know for sure.

[botn]

Which it means it very well may not be what the label says.

Originally Posted by barrysloate

As I said Richard, SGC took a leap of faith. It very well may be exactly what the label says, but we don't know for sure.

[cfc1909]

images taken from ebay and the board-it appeares the image is from the e93 issue

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[Epps]

I honestly don't think it matters if the card has a numerical grade or not. The card isn't going to sell because of its grade, its going to sell because its a one of a kind card. (Maybe) If another one comes out into the open and SGC gives it a numerical grade, then yeah this one should get one too. I get what you guys are saying that if some E-UNC cards get numerical grades then this one should, but I don't think that it matters if it has a numerical grade or not.

[E93]

To me it seems pretty obvious that this is an E93 due to cropping. Cropping is identical with the orange E93 below. It obviously differs from the purple E94 that crops at the bottom of the shirt, and also differs from the red E98 that crops between where the E93 and E94 do.


Yes, it is possible that this is from a yet-unknown E set, thus justifying and E-unc description, but if one is looking for distribution evidence and one is not convinced that it is an E93 because of the blank back, then there is certainly no reason to give it an "E" designation for "early candy", including "E-Unc". The only reason one would be led to the conclusion of it being an E card would be the remarkable resemblance to E93s, so the argument would become circular. If it deserves E-Unc, it deserves E93.

In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I think SGC made the right call in labeling it an E93. If it shows no evidence of trimming or other tampering, they probably should have given it a numerical grade.


JimB

[bijoem]

I don't know Jim.

The black and white one looks a lot smaller than the other e93s shown.

[Leon]

If it's not altered it should get a numerical grade, imo. The cropping for it looks most like an E93 and I don't think it's a stretch calling it that. There are too many "ifs" going on in these evaluations, if you ask me. However, I will go ahead and use one and say "IF it is not altered and has the same other characteristics as an E93, then it should be labeled and graded as such....." There is precedence for "grading" this type of situation.....

[Epps]

I see where you are coming from with the grade. A numerical grade would be nice so as to tell if it was altered or trimmed. All I was saying earlier was that on the market, I don't think it will matter if it has a numerical grade or not.

[Jacklitsch]

Here's another example with a numerical grade: