E93 Black & White Cobb

[barrysloate]

It may have gotten the grade it did because SGC just isn't sure what it is.

[rman444]

If SGC isn't sure what it is, then how can they authenticate it?

[Wesley]

Do you guys remember the uncatalogued blue blank back Wagner card? The last time it was sold was in Heritage.

http://sports.ha.com/common/view_ite...4&Lot_No=81021

That one was characterized as a "C 1910 E-UNC" by SGC. If SGC isn't sure about the identification of the black and white Cobb, then maybe a E-UNC designation would be more appropriate.

The blue Wagner card, by the way, was also given a numerical grade.

[barrysloate]

Richard- that's a very good question. But do they know with absolute certainty it's a black and white E93, when this may in fact be the very first one that has surfaced? So I believe in a situation like this they proceed cautiously. Does that make sense?

[Orioles1954]

Guys, I'm definitely going to look into this a bit further. Today is "deadlines", so it probably won't be today. However, I will get an answer....as it is a question worth answering.

James

[rman444]

Barry, that makes sense. But as Wesley pointed out, perhaps cautiously should have been E-unc with a number grade rather than E93 Auth.

[barrysloate]

I don't know what the company policy is, but periodically SGC is going to receive a card that is uncatalogued and which they have never seen before. So it will entail more than just grading, as they will have some decisions to make. The first is what to put on the label. In this case it is logical to call it an E93 black and white, but it is within the realm of possibility that it is something else. So I think in a situation like this it is safer to just authenticate it, assuming they believe it is period and not some later production.

Calling it E-Unc. would make more sense but perhaps the submitters wouldn't like that and would lobby for something a little more specific. This is all speculation of course.

[rman444]

Barry - I understand what you are saying, but if SGC, or anyone for that matter, is going to authenticate a card without knowing for certain the issue, then aren't they simply authenticating the card as period? If E93 is put on the label, then shouldn't the graders be certain that it is in fact an Authentic E93?

Edited to add: If this card had a more unique image of Cobb, or if it had an E93 printed back then I can see a better argument of how this card could be an E93. However, this image is used on no less than 3 different caramel cards, notebook covers, magazine premiums, publications, etc and was found with a blank back. To authenticate it as an E93 seems a bit of a stretch to me.