T206 Demmitt & O'Hara....are they 350-only Series cards ?

[tedzan]

The current thread...."New evidence of T206 expanded 350/460 series cards"....reveals the significance of the various shades of GREEN
colored backs found on the T206 SOVEREIGN cards. These color variations are not due to any random effects (i.e., fading, wear, etc.)
Cards, whose backs are "candy apple green", accurately delineate the 350/460 subjects from the other series in the SOVEREIGN issue.
The "forest green" colored backs clearly identify the 350-only series cards.

Regarding the "candy apple green" cards......This 1st group of cards shown here with this shade of green backs are 5 subjects from the
350 series that American Lithographic (ALC) planned to extend into the 350/460 series. Two of them (Kleinow and Smith) were extended
into the 460 series (reflecting their trades). The other 3 were not....since their major league careers ended prior to the 350/460 release
in Summer/Fall of 1910.

Joe Doyle........................traded to Cinci.(May 1910); career ends June 25, 1910
Red Kleinow (NY)..............traded to Boston May 1910
Simon Nicholls (bat)..........traded to Clev (spring 1910); career ends May 1910
Bob Rhoades (arm ext.)......career ends Summer of 1909
Frank Smith (white cap).....traded to Boston in the Summer of 1910.





Some examples of "candy apple green" backs featuring HOFer's from the "350/460" series cards.




..............350-only back for comparison


From this discovery, it can be concluded, with 100% certainty, that the O'Hara (NY); and therefore, its St Louis variation were strictly
part of the 350-only series.

The Demmitt (NY) does NOT exist with any SOVEREIGN back. Since the O'Hara (NY) & (St Louis) cards have been proven to be 350-only
series cards by virtue of the color code of the SOVEREIGN backs......then it follows that the Demmitt (St Louis) is also a 350-only series
card. As both of these St Louis variations were printed in the same POLAR BEAR press run.


TED Z

[wonkaticket]

Wow Ted that's some digging, good job.

Also it may be easy...but I have to say that's the first Sovreign backed O'Hara I think I've ever seen...how tough was that to find?

Like I said could be easy but upon seeing it I started to think back and I dont think I remember one in my collecting days.

Cheers,

John

[tedzan]

Thanks guy for your kind words; and especially, for sharing with us your amazing T206 find (Post #35), which included the rare Demmitt
and O'Hara cards.

To your........
"Also it may be easy...but I have to say that's the first Sovreign backed O'Hara I think I've ever seen...how tough was that to find?"

The O'Hara (NY) card exists with only 4 (or 5) T-brand backs. Of course the PIEDMONT 350 is easy to find. The SWEET CAP 350/30 is
less seen....and, the CYCLE 350 is not often seen. The SOVEREIGN 350 is seldom seen. Also, a SWEET CAP 350/25 possibly exists, but
I've never seen it.

In the course of completing my all-SOVEREIGN set (407 cards), the Red Cobb with a 460 back was the very last card that I acquired.

This O'Hara was one of the last cards on my wantlist. For a long time, I thought O'Hara was a No-Print......since, I already knew that
Demmitt (NY) was a No-Print.
FYI, there are 64 no-prints in the 350-only series of the SOVEREIGN set.

Best regards ole buddy....and, hope to see you at the December Philly Show.


TED Z

[ethicsprof]

Very well researched and nuanced work!
Now, we have to find a Sovereign pack for you!

all the best,

barry

[tedzan]

I certainly would like to have SOVEREIGN and AMERICAN BEAUTY (Factory 42) packs to complement my sets.

Can you give me Jon C's email address ?


T-Rex TED

[ethicsprof]

I'll email you in just a second with the addresses i have for him.

He may not have the 2 packs now but he has the best eye i've ever seen
for finding the best ones.

all the best,TRex

barry

[cfc1909]

I know you have viewed my back set -you just don't remember


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