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Old 10-13-2009, 12:48 AM
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The superstar (ala Cobb and Jackson) T5 Pinkerton Cabinets have zoomed up there in recent years.
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Old 10-13-2009, 06:04 AM
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My Diamond Stars Willis Hudlin? Nah ...
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Old 10-13-2009, 06:35 AM
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Boston Garters - especially Joe Jackson?
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:02 AM
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Add the E90-1 Joe Jackson to this mix.

In the mid to late 1980's an Ex card could be bought for less than $200.

After the movies "Eight Men Out" (1988) and "Field of Dreams" (1989), all Shoeless Joe Jackson cards
increased significantly in price. Nowadays, they are going for $20,000 ! !

An appreciation factor of 100 to 1.


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Old 10-13-2009, 07:47 AM
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Jackson valuations are in my opinion quite disproportionate to his accomplishments. Of course there is an explanation for this, the Black Sox and the "what if" questions had he completed his career, and the fact that he appears on relatively few cards. Still, on the theory that one can only judge a player by his actual achievements, here are the batters he is most comparable to statistically:

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Pete Browning (878)
Elmer Flick (869) *
Riggs Stephenson (854)
Earle Combs (853) *
Tip O'Neill (844)
Baby Doll Jacobson (840)
Joe Vosmik (839)
Ross Youngs (826) *
Bibb Falk (826)
John Stone (821)

Not exactly elite company.
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:55 AM
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Jackson valuations are in my opinion quite disproportionate to his accomplishments. Of course there is an explanation for this, the Black Sox and the "what if" questions had he completed his career, and the fact that he appears on relatively few cards. Still, on the theory that one can only judge a player by his actual achievements, here are the batters he is most comparable to statistically:
Peter - are you comparing career stats or average season stats? Because his career was cut short...

Don't get me wrong - his card value is certainly bolstered by the Black-Sox mystique, but he was one of the elite players of his day with a .356 career average.
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That is from baseball reference, career stats. Obviously he would compare much more favorably on a per season basis, but my opinion is that a career is the more important yardstick.
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:37 PM
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Jackson valuations are in my opinion quite disproportionate to his accomplishments. Of course there is an explanation for this, the Black Sox and the "what if" questions had he completed his career, and the fact that he appears on relatively few cards. Still, on the theory that one can only judge a player by his actual achievements, here are the batters he is most comparable to statistically:

Compare Stats to Similars
Pete Browning (878)
Elmer Flick (869) *
Riggs Stephenson (854)
Earle Combs (853) *
Tip O'Neill (844)
Baby Doll Jacobson (840)
Joe Vosmik (839)
Ross Youngs (826) *
Bibb Falk (826)
John Stone (821)

Not exactly elite company.
He did it all WITHOUT SHOES!!!
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I would say the top three would be:

Baltimore News Ruth
T210 Joe Jackson
T206 Wagner

Less than ten years ago, a person could have gotten a T206 Wagner for 50k. I think the first one to crack 100k was only about seven years ago. Several have now sold in excess of 300k and the SGC 10 example in REA a few months back went for 400k.

I bet, in terms of percentage, the BN Ruth has probably done better - largely thanks to good promotion and auction catalog write-ups. Ooops... did I actually say that on Net 54?
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:50 AM
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What abut strip cards...w514 Joe Jackson for example. As Ted stated...eight man out...field of dreams has caused his cards to take off like a saturn missile. Joe Jackson strip card...maybe worth $5 20+ years ago...now sell in the thousands...that's quite a multiple!
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How about the effect that Net54 has had upon certain cards? One card that comes to my mind is the 1911 Zeenut horizontal card of Halla. 6 or 7 years ago this was just another Zeenut common, perhaps a $15-30 card, but because of its exposure on this site it skyrocketed to where it is $1000-$2000+ card.

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