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[BobbyVCP]

May I ask a question?

Why do you state NM values for cards that are beaters and may be lucky to get a grade for a SGC 10?

[BCBAUCTION]

Hi Bobby,

Because I feel that if a card has a significant book value (like $5,000) it is important to state it (notice I say Nm value) so collectors can use it as a "referencing point" for how much they want to pay for the actual card being sold, even if it is in lower grade.

Also for collectors that don't have a price guide on hand, it is simply a "referencing point" to show and state how valuable the card is in it's original form.

Thanks for the question? BCB Auctions

[T206Collector]

I think the question was rhetorical and meant to point out that by putting NM values next to beater cards that the collecting public might be misled. The same is, of course, true of auction estimates and, frankly, any attempt to provide a target or range for a given card, other than, say, minimum bid.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I think the question was rhetorical and meant to point out that by putting NM values next to beater cards that the collecting public might be misled. The same is, of course, true of auction estimates and, frankly, any attempt to provide a target or range for a given card, other than, say, minimum bid.

I disagree. I see no problem in pointing out the NM prices as many collectors still go by a percentage of NM when valuing something. Also, in todays shill-laden world I don't think it's any different than quoting a previous sale (which I have done, myself) since who knows if it was legit or not? As I always say, give me big front and back scans and I can handle the rest.

Good luck with the auction, Brian.....

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Leon

I disagree. I see no problem in pointing out the NM prices as many collectors still go by a percentage of NM when valuing something.

I should have been more neutral in my post -- I also see no problem in pointing this out. I just wanted to cut to the chase faster.

[BobbyVCP]

Thanks for the reply.

[BCBAUCTION]

Hi Folks,

Nothing to be mislead as it states it all clearly in the actual description below

"[I]A card which is valued at $5,000.00 in Nm when found and in lower grade Vg, it has an Est. Value of $1,300.00, which shows you just how valuable & desirable this card is (which is the point I am trying to make)

Thanks Guys! BcB

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

Brian, did you get your card values from VCP?

[Rich Klein]

"Offered here is a T206 Marquard Portrait card which grades G/Vg. The condition of the back of the card is clean with a Piedmont 350 advertisement. No Back Damage. A $1,300.00 card in Nm" Min bid $50.

How is that misleading in any way.

The seller is stating the NM value (which is usually a book value).
He is also stating the condition is G/VG (We can discuss that; but no claim is made that this is in great condition)
And the minimum bid is 4 percent of the stated book value.

As I like to say; let's jump on people when they do wrong; not when everything is described properly.

Rich