NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-07-2009, 11:16 AM
calvindog's Avatar
calvindog calvindog is offline
Jeffrey Lichtman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,887
Default

What we learned from last night is that flowery, grammatically incorrect language is the driving force behind high auction prices.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-07-2009, 11:27 AM
barrysloate barrysloate is offline
Barry Sloate
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 8,293
Default

Jeff- wouldn't you think that a company that wants to put out a professional auction catalog could spend a little time proofreading it...or find a college English major to look it over for a few bucks?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-07-2009, 11:42 AM
kylebicking kylebicking is offline
member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 116
Default all have these problems

All auction catalogs have these problems. I think they're quite amusing, especially when a player's name is spelled wrong.

Attention all auction houses - proof reader for hire right here...
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-07-2009, 11:47 AM
calvindog's Avatar
calvindog calvindog is offline
Jeffrey Lichtman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,887
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by barrysloate View Post
Jeff- wouldn't you think that a company that wants to put out a professional auction catalog could spend a little time proofreading it...or find a college English major to look it over for a few bucks?
No. Flowery language gets the competitive juices flowing which causes insane, 8x the value prices. I never said the language had to make sense.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-07-2009, 11:50 AM
rman444's Avatar
rman444 rman444 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 621
Default

Jeff - I hope you realize that I have the term "flowery language" copyrighted. You will have to pay me a nickel every time you use it. I should have enough for a full sized BG Cobb in no time.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-07-2009, 12:03 PM
Orioles1954 Orioles1954 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,293
Default

When I first started to work at H&S, I was told to have my work read like the New York Times, not the New Yorker. We try to be technical and to the point, adding only pertinent details. Sure we have one-liners here and there, but have attempted to keep that to a minimum.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-07-2009, 12:16 PM
slidekellyslide's Avatar
slidekellyslide slidekellyslide is offline
Dan Bretta
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 6,129
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orioles1954 View Post
When I first started to work at H&S, I was told to have my work read like the New York Times....
Just what we need, auction descriptions with a liberal bias.

edited to add smiley

<-------------
__________________
Looking for Nebraska Indians memorabilia, photos and postcards

Last edited by slidekellyslide; 10-07-2009 at 12:22 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-07-2009, 12:10 PM
calvindog's Avatar
calvindog calvindog is offline
Jeffrey Lichtman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,887
Default

In NYC, obsession with real estate abounds. My favorite descriptive term is "sun drenched."

As for auction catalogs sounding like the NY Times, I suppose that's a decent idea; anything but a Harlequin Romance novel would suit me fine.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-07-2009, 12:13 PM
Rich Klein Rich Klein is offline
Rich Klein
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Plano Tx
Posts: 4,743
Default as I have told several of these houses

I could write most of these descriptions in my sleep and with real knowledge of the hobby and sports

Similar to Kyle; I'm a writer/copy editor for hire for these people

Rich
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-07-2009, 12:15 PM
Orioles1954 Orioles1954 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,293
Default

As a collector and a writer in the industry, I get ALL of the auction catalogs. I will keep personal opinions to myself on this one, but when I see a description longer than a couple of paragraphs I will automatically skip over it.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-07-2009, 12:22 PM
slidekellyslide's Avatar
slidekellyslide slidekellyslide is offline
Dan Bretta
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 6,129
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orioles1954 View Post
As a collector and a writer in the industry, I get ALL of the auction catalogs. I will keep personal opinions to myself on this one, but when I see a description longer than a couple of paragraphs I will automatically skip over it.
I skip over all auction descriptions unless it is something I'm interested in or bidding on. I really don't mind the descriptions at all...I can get past the flowery BS to find the facts. Usually though I am only interested in memorabilia and often times there is a story behind it that needs to be told....when it comes to cards just describe the condition, the issue and move along...I really don't need a Honus Wagner biography with every card depicting him offered.
__________________
Looking for Nebraska Indians memorabilia, photos and postcards
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-07-2009, 12:24 PM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is offline
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 35,664
Default really now....

As an auctioneer I like the long drawn out descriptions- not. I mean does it really take 3 paragraphs to describe a T206 Red Cobby in vg condition?

The auctions I like most are the ones that give big, clear, front and back scans of cards. Most of us, especially on this board, have a darn good idea of what we are looking at most of the times. And every time I hear the term "pop report" I just cringe. But I am not a pop report kind of collector (not that there is anything wrong with that, all collectors are good in my book).....I would rather hear how many are truly known about in existence. That number, such as an example (this might not be accurate but is for example only) of a PSA 7 Red Cobb.....maybe it has a pop of 8, or something. That is wonderful. The known population is probably 350 but only 8 have been graded a 7. And some of these might not even be trimmed.....

Memorabilia is another story and a nice description is needed for provenance, dating etc.....
__________________
Leon Luckey
www.luckeycards.com
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-07-2009, 11:59 AM
murcerfan murcerfan is offline
Dave Terwi.lliger
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 335
Default

Larry..i do agree on the '67 standups, BUT if you wanted a '68 3-d Powell in psa8 you had to beat $8,500 .... 3-d Stottlemyer in psa6 set somebody back $3,800 (i picked one up that graded psa7 in 2003 for $800) ..conversely the Flood psa6 was cheap, as were the easy ones... I paid about what I expected to upgrade my Staub to psa6.

I also thought the D304 Kelly, and a few of the E90-3 cards got strong action.

There do seem to be good deals to be had lately...lots of material being auctioned and money tight for most of us.

Last edited by murcerfan; 10-07-2009 at 12:00 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lesson Learned Archive Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 1 07-20-2008 09:00 AM
Let's Rate The Auction Houses Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 51 06-01-2008 01:29 PM
Suggestions for Auction Houses Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 2 10-17-2007 09:13 PM
Lesson learned: thanks for everything guys it's not as bad as it looks Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 1 08-19-2007 05:54 PM
A Lesson Learned (altered cards being slabbed) Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 4 06-02-2007 11:52 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:56 PM.


ebay GSB