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calvindog · #1 10-02-2009, 06:22 PM

These two auctions also indicate what happens when the double whammy of recession and lack of flowery language hit simultaneously:

Goodwin D304 Mathewson SGC 60 $45,123
Heritage D304 Mathewson SGC 70 $8,365

Ummmm......hmmmmm.....

E93 · #2 10-02-2009, 06:37 PM

I am pretty sure I know who the bidder and underbidders were in the Goodwin auction on the D304s and both (obviously the winner) are not now active in the hobby from what I hear. Timing is everything. Of course, it could also be an evil conspiracy too.
JimB

edited to add "on the D304s"

uniship · #3 10-02-2009, 06:45 PM

didnt some brand new huge whale enter the hobby in recent years and create some of the abnormal prices on some examples?

thought i heard that somewhere. that might explain some of the crazy price histories -

i could be totally wrong, but i think i remember hearing or reading about this in recent months.

calvindog · #4 10-02-2009, 06:51 PM

I wish we lived in a world where everyone was honest and there were none of those darn evil conspiracies that are so obvious that they hit you between the eyes like a hammer. A world where money falls from the sky, marshmallows grow on trees and rivers flow with chocolate.

But we don't.

Rob D. · #5 10-02-2009, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog

I wish we lived in a world where everyone was honest and there were none of those darn evil conspiracies that are so obvious that they hit you between the eyes like a hammer. A world where money falls from the sky, marshmallows grow on trees and rivers flow with chocolate.

But we don't.

I hear that's what it's like in Rio de Janeiro. I mean, it's gotta be, right?

chiprop · #6 10-02-2009, 07:50 PM

"I am pretty sure I know who the bidder and underbidders were in the Goodwin auction and both (obviously the winner) are not now active in the hobby from what I hear. Timing is everything. Of course, it could also be an evil conspiracy too.
JimB "

Ok Jeff, now what? We got someone who knows the winners and the under bidders on those Goodwin lots. Looks like those lots were legit.

I think you can find a handful of lots in a major auction that on the surface look contrived. Unless we have the facts, it's important not to determine guilt from the numbers alone, or at least that's what they teach in law school.

calvindog · #7 10-02-2009, 08:22 PM

Dan, you really work overtime trying to protect Goodwin. But to your credit at least you admit that you're a consignor of his.

And Jim B's "pretty sure" facts don't take into account any number of ways in which auctions can be shilled. Since when does a legit winner negate any possibility of fraud in an auction? You're way too smart to suggest that but I understand that Goodwin needs to be protected. Problem is that the circumstantial evidence is hilarious. Find me some other auctions with decreases in prices like the ones I posted. Of course, it took me about 30 seconds to find those. Not very hard when looking at Goodwin's auctions. Maybe try Barry's or H & S or B & L. My guess is you won't find prices decreasing by 80% or 63K after sales in those auctions. Just Goodwin. But of course that's why you consign to Goodwin so you already know that.

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