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Old 09-29-2009, 11:37 AM
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Ted,

If you use the flawed logic that there are players in the Hall of Fame whose stats are just a little bit better than (insert player here), you'll eventually reach a point where every player is worthy of induction.

Bill James has done a great job of showing how flawed the "Well this player's in, so then this player deserves to be in, too" argument is.

As for the horizontal Dunn references, I think most people realize that my posts about the T206 Dunn being a horizontal pose were jabs at you and your continual snotty reactions to most folks when they dare to question anything you might post about the T206 issue. Sorry I couldn't be more clear.
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:38 AM
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Were the horizontal cards printed differently then the vertical cards?

Edited to say: Rob - did you mean snooty or snotty?
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:43 AM
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Ted, given who is in the HOF I think a very good case can be made for Hodges, given the numbers he put up during the 1950s. His career stats come up a bit short, but if Jim Rice is in on the theory that he had an outstanding 10 years stretch, I think (without going back and checking) that Hodges qualifies on that basis too.

EDIT TO ADD Of course the same logic would say Steve Garvey should be in. On balance I would probably not have voted Rice in even though he played for Boston, and say no to Hodges and Garvey as well.

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I assume the question was not meant for Ted alone; 17 was Dizzy Dean.
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Old 09-29-2009, 01:48 PM
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Default Frank Wakefield....re..#17

Here are the ballplayers that wore #17 on your Cardinals subsequent to Dizzy Dean......

1945 Augie Bergamo
1946 unknown
1947 unknown
1948 unknown
1949 Joe Garagiola
1950 Joe Garigiola
1951 Joe Garigiola
1952 Les Fusselmann
1953 Sal Yvars
1954 Vic Raschi
1955 Mel Wright

When did they retire Dizzy's uniform # ?


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Old 09-29-2009, 12:03 PM
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This opinion of yours......
"I think most people realize that my posts about the T206 Dunn being a horizontal pose were jabs at you and
your continual snotty reactions to most folks when they dare to question anything you might post about the
T206 issue."

.....is not shared by as "most" as you imagine. For many years, at the National, at the Philly Show, and many,
many emails that I have received......have been very complimentary to me regarding my theories, posts, etc.
regarding the T206's. Essentially, because I have informed them of certain aspects of the T206 set that they
did not fully understand.

But, if you think I'm a "snotty" dude, there's nothing I can say or do to change your impression of me. And.....
frankly, I don't give a damn !


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