Complete T208 Set to be sold by Legendary in November

[rman444]

It sounds like there are around 8 of each T208 around? I would guess maybe 12-15 or so of each Williams and another 15-20 of each Rochester?

[pro9]

0When is the last time somebody has seen a Nadja back e104-1?

[Wesley]

Originally Posted by pro9

0When is the last time somebody has seen a Nadja back e104-1?

I have never seen or heard of a E104-1 combination with the "World's Champions" tag line on front with the Nadja back. I have only seen blank backs on the E104-1s with the "World's Champions" tag line on front(similar to the D359 and T208).

If you are talking about the ones without the "World's Champions" tagline on the front, E104-1s do come with the Nadja back. They are tougher than the blank back E014-1s without the tagline, but they are out there.

[chiprop]

By far, my favorite images! The guy (I'll assume it's a guy) who purchased the Legendary t208 overpaid by a bunch. If REA sells them as individual lots, I would guess they go under $10k for a common even in EX condition.

Rman- your numbers sound right. I know of one other complete set and two other guys who have 1 example. Very tough, but obviously obtainable if you are patient.

Wes... I was gonna say that.

I think the d359's and e104's have been beaten down lately, but they will do OK in the future. It should be a more popular set in that it has a great set of images, players, and they are available in bread, tobacco, or candy form. Unfortunately, this is as close as I will come to a t208...

[murcerfan]

...and how do we know that these "Nadja's" with 1910 Champion overprints aren't blank back d359's or even T208's ??

[rman444]

Wow, DK! A third complete set and a few more stragglers out there. I think Jay Behrens had around 6-8 of them as well? Sounds like I was a little low on my estimate of the T208 population.

I think typically we double what is known so if there are around 4 of each known, the total that exist may be around 8 of each card?

That is a small number, but certainly not as tough as some of the other neighboring T-sets:

T214 Victory
T215 Pirate
T216 Virginia Extra

maybe even

T215 Red Cross
T216 Mino

[Wesley]

The population for any given card in the T208 set might be higher than singles from the other rare sets, but because the T208 set is smaller (18 players), the overall population for the T208s is lower.

So many of the T208s are in the complete sets, that in order for type collectors to find a single example, they really had to pay super high prices in the past. It will be interesting to see if this is still the case with the introduction of so many into the marketplace in the next few months.

[phlflyer1]

Originally Posted by rman444

It sounds like there are around 8 of each T208 around? I would guess maybe 12-15 or so of each Williams and another 15-20 of each Rochester?

Richard,

Are the Williams D-359s considered tougher than the Rochester backs?

I had always thought it was the other way around but I wouldn't know for sure as I haven't kept as close tabs on the set once I acquired one of each type of back for my type collection.

Any other D-359 collectors care to share their opinion/experience on the relative scarcity between the Williams and Rochester backs?

[barrysloate]

Hi Scott- Ive had about 10 D359's over the past year and a half, and I think they were all Williams, but I'm doing this by memory.

Correction: I just looked them up and most were Rochester. Just goes to show you- never trust your memory.

[rman444]

Scott - I was just going by graded population counts. I don't know enough about the issue and about hidden collections to be able to add anything more intelligent.

[Leon]

I have probably owned 100 or so D359's over the years and, in my observance, the Rochesters are a little bit tougher. If I had to guess I would say maybe 70/30.....No reason to dispute this unless you have been in my head looking at them. I know there are the conspiracy theory folks that want to dispute everything ever said but no need to on this one. We have all seen what we have seen....I once owned almost 2 full sets and 1 was the #1 on the PSA registry....I admit I bought it that way though....as I am not a registry guy per se'.....I think now is the time to buy the D359's as they have dropped in price more than many sets...especially, scarce ones. regards

[ullmandds]

It seems to me that traditionally...historically...as Leon has stated...the rochester backs have always been considered tougher...although as of lately(last year or so)...the sentiment has been the opposite...that the Williams backs are tougher. So how's that for a conclusion?!?!!

[Jewish-collector]

Now, you all know that REA wants to have the best, rarest, most desirable cards in their Spring 2010 auction. We will see what comes out of the basements.