Raw Cards

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

...and it's funny people love to buy raw cards, but when it's time to sell let's get SGC (or whatever company they will grade the card the highest)on the phone. it's all about the bottom line$$$

When I buy a card, it's all about "me" and what I will pay.

When I sell a card it suddenly becomes about other people and what they will pay. If they prefer to pay more for graded, so be it.

[danmckee]

to expound on what I stated: There are plenty of trimmed, altered, fake, repro cards in 3rd party holders as legit and unaltered. I am with Frank, after 40 years of doing this, I put myself in the knows best category.

Buy raw and sell slabbed, because of the stoopid or stupid people that will pay $3000.00 for a $300.00 card because of a label. If I didn't spend the $14 before selling my $300.00 card to have it slabbed, then that would make me just as stoooopid.

[deadballera]

most of my collection is in RAW form.

I do have some that are graded cards, but 95 % of my collection are raw.

I have only sent in one card to be graded. Just don't want to spend the money yet to get any of them graded.


When buying raw cards, I usually only buy from dealers that I have dealt with in the past.

[FrankWakefield]

Dan, Jim, Bob, Chris... these are obviously collectors I need to sit down and drink a beer with.

Quan, when we (me and the guys I just mentioned) buy a card, we're after that card. Not a holder, a slip, or some kinda report (what do they call those things that list which collector has the highest graded cards??).

When we sell, we're selling for, what is it now, wait for it.... money. So I don't think many of us would disagree that graded cards usually sell for more (revisit the raw cards cost less idea one more time), it is just that we aren't interested in collecting them. But you guys please continue to collect them, it helps us sell for more!!

[Potomac Yank]

Count me in .....

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[chaddurbin]

then don't bash the game...if you guys are also willing participants, or act like you're above it.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

then don't bash the game...if you guys are also willing participants, or act like you're above it.

Not sure if you meant me, but I have never bashed the game or acted like I'm above it.

It is what it is.

[barrysloate]

There are enough cards to go around to satisfy both the graded market and the raw one.

[mintacular]

While some of you guys feel knowledgable enough to spot fakes, I mentioned that many consumers (perhaps those who only buy/collect cards sparingly) may prefer the added certainty of buying graded cards, especially on an expensive card that is readily counterfeited (Mantle/Clemente/Jordan/Lemieux, etc.) While you (rightly) point out that grading companies are not always 100% correct, the good ones will get it right 95-99% of the time and as such offer an advantage for SOME buyers...

(Sidenote: I do agree with the overall sentiment that graded card collectors oftentimes do overpay unnecessarily and for reasons that I don't personally care for. i.e. buying the "holder" instead of the card...)

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by mintacular

While some of you guys feel knowledgable enough to spot fakes, I mentioned that many consumers (perhaps those who only buy/collect cards sparingly) may prefer the added certainty of buying graded cards, especially on an expensive card that is readily counterfeited (Mantle/Clemente/Jordan/Lemieux, etc.) While you (rightly) point out that grading companies are not always 100% correct, the good ones will get it right 95-99% of the time and as such offer an advantage for SOME buyers...

(Sidenote: I do agree with the overall sentiment that graded card collectors oftentimes do overpay unnecessarily and for reasons that I don't personally care for. i.e. buying the "holder" instead of the card...)

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You use post war Mantle/Clemente/Jordan/Lemieux, as an example, instead of Cobb/Doyle/Thorpe/Magie, and yet it is obvious that you have not checked out the "Have you checked out THESE beauties" Poll.

[Al C.risafulli]

About 95% of my collection is raw. The only things I have slabbed are the cards I have on display, my T205s, my Henry Johnson HOFers, and a smattering of other oddball cards that I've acquired over the years.

Everything else is either in binders or in card savers in shoeboxes. It will always be that way.

-Al