Grade of Authentic

[barrysloate]

Tony- there are occasions when a card that was submitted is perfectly fine, but for some reason the grading company feels uncomfortable giving it a numerical grade. It may be a hairline smaller than normal, or have a funny looking cut. As such, the card may still receive an "Authentic" grade. In those cases the graders may choose to err on the side of caution.

[tonyo]

I've never submitted a card for grading. I assume that when a card is returned to the owner, an explanation accompanies that explains the grade assigned. true?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Tony- there are occasions when a card that was submitted is perfectly fine, but for some reason the grading company feels uncomfortable giving it a numerical grade. It may be a hairline smaller than normal, or have a funny looking cut. As such, the card may still receive an "Authentic" grade. In those cases the graders may choose to err on the side of caution.

Barry is correct, of course. There are times the third party graders just don't feel comfortable with some aspect OR they don't know enough about the set. IN those cases they might give an AUT grade and there isn't any issue with the card. I had this happen to an 1875 CDV of Candy Cummings. I gave it to SGC to grade at a National several years ago. It came back AUT as the graders didn't know enough about it. I was a bit unhappy since there wasn't anything wrong with the card. After some discussions and research the card got reviewed and came back as an SGC80.....it was a beautiful card and didn't have any problems. As I told them at the time...if there IS A PROBLEM, then I had no issue with an AUT grade. If there wasn't a problem then it should get a numerical grade. They agreed....regards

[insidethewrapper]

I didn't know the graders knew who submitted the cards to them. I thought they graded without knowledge of the owner.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

I didn't know the graders knew who submitted the cards to them. I thought they graded without knowledge of the owner.

I would imagine sometimes it's difficult, when accepting the grading submission in person, to be completely anonymous. However, this was my arguing AFTER the fact, and not before it. I doubt the graders knew who I was on the front end of the submission, but it was at least 3 yrs ago so I wouldn't swear to anything. I don't remember them knowing who I was on the front end, is all I can say for sure .

I can add one more thing. The grading was done at a hotel across the street that year.

[barrysloate]

Leon- you probably were anonymous on the front end, but once you walked it back and complained about the grade...how could they not know it was you?

[bcbgcbrcb]

We know that PSA has encapsulated at least one re-backed card, the Just So Tobacco - Jesse Burkett..........

[E93]

I don't think the Just So Burkett was rebacked. Weren't sides from a Just So actress card professionally attached because the sides were trimmed off? The same thing was done with a T206 Wagner that was auctioned at the National this year.
JimB

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Leon- you probably were anonymous on the front end, but once you walked it back and complained about the grade...how could they not know it was you?

Of course Barry, that was my point. I was anonymous until after the fact. Just like at any grading company someone can request to talk to a grader. This all being said, concerning anonymity of submissions, I personally don't care if they know who the submitter is. The grade should be for the card and nothing else. (at least that is, in a perfect world)....regards

[danmckee]

Aren't the American Beauty's originally thinner to fit in their packs? Are we sure this card is trimmed? I know the T206 AB's are thinner but haven't looked at my T205 set in years. Dan.