T209-1 Contentnea ....Bourquise?

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by smokelessjoe

Here is a last name match for "Bourquin", for what its worth???

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Thank you for digging up the article and being on board for this one.

Let see, on April 8 1909 according to the article, a Davis Bourquin was listed as part of the Bridgeport Giants team.

1. How long was he on the team?
2. Where did he go from there?
3. Fulton? ... Fulton KY? ... Fulton NY?? ... Fulton???
4. Was it before, or after Bridgeport?

[smokelessjoe]

No problem guys, glad to be of some help!

Not sure if this can be tied to our guy... But with stuff like this going on, who knows how many cards have the wrong name!

I had to cut the article up in order to make it readable. The bottom part is the END of the article.

VERY INTRIGUING ARTICLE

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by smokelessjoe

No problem guys, glad to be of some help!

Not sure if this can be tied to our guy... But with stuff like this going on, who knows how many cards have the wrong name!

I had to cut the article up in order to make it readable. The bottom part is the END of the article.

VERY INTRIGUING ARTICLE

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Shawn, you're top drawer ... you're the cats Meow!

That is indeed interesting.

It just goes to show us that you didn't need a jet to get between Bridgeport, CT ... and Rocky Mt, NC. back in 1909.

BTW, there was a Lloyd that pitched for Lynchburg, he was a lefty, whereas the Fayetteville Luyster was a righty pitcher.

The plot is showing a light at the end of the tunnel ..... go get 'em historians!

[Merkle923]

Nice work, Detectives.

The best part about Lloyd and Luyster is that they are both on T209-2 cards.

The way this stuff usually shakes out is that if you have seemingly contradictory evidence about player identities, all of it (or some of 'all of it') is true. Thus Bourquin/Bourquise/Bourquoise/Burke probably showed up under all these names, was in camp with Bridgeport after having been photographed with a team in Fulton (maybe the minor league club in Fulton, NY), then wound up in the Carolinas. The next question of course is, why is he one of the guys in a sixteen-card set? (the answer to that one is probably the one we always overlook from our days of total-saturation info: they made a card of him because somebody had a picture of him.

Just another aspect that makes T209 (both -1 and -2) two of the weirdest sets of all-time. Just two other notes: if you google (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...iIKJXQ8QaJ46hZ) "Pfeifer Fullenwider" you will find a copyright-expired photo of the guy in T209-1, wearing his uniform from Columbia of the Sally League, inside the Polo Grounds in New York. The Giants apparently drafted or bought him late in 1911 and he reported wearing his minor league uni. Never got into a big league game, but got into a spring training photo with the Giants in 1912 (and apparently actually spelled his memorable first name 'Phifer').

So I'm the lurker, now appearing under my own name. And for goodness sakes, no politics. I promise, if you won't, I won't.

[chaddurbin]

ok just read leon's OP...

[Merkle923]

I'm KO (suddenly I feel like I used to when I ripped off the "I'm Kaiser Soze" line for SportsCenter). Ask your esteemed moderator if you are dubious, or fire away with the If-You're-Him-Blah-Blah-Blah.

No clue on Rockythebulldog. Is it Pfeifer Fullenweider by any chance?

[chaddurbin]

yea i figured it out after reading leon's post.

you indirectly got me into vintage cards when you were a sports anchor on kcbs in the late 80's and you'd have a sports cards segment every sunday night (38 goudey heads up, '54 bowman williams etc)...thanks!

[Kawika]

The great-grandson of a ballplayer named Hick Munsell came on to the board a few weeks back and after doing a little digging into the NYT archives I saw that Munsell went to spring training with the Giants in 1912 at their camp in Marlin, Texas. The name Fullenwider came up several times in various articles and I was wondering if it was the same as the T209 guy.

NYT Jan 10, 1912; first mention of P.F. in archives (link to pdf file): http://tinyurl.com/ybn7gbr
NYT Mar 17, 1912; last mention of P.F.: http://tinyurl.com/ydyswps


This picture from the LOC site appears to confirm it.