T209-1 Contentnea ....Bourquise?

[rhettyeakley]

Frank, you misunderstood my post I think. I was saying the T209 Color set (or T209-1) was from 1909. I went back and checked Lew's book and he states "Best guess at a date for this issue is 1910" he was just off by a year. The player selection & associated teams definitely dates this set to 1909.

You (and Lew) are correct that the T209 Black & White set (T209-2) is from 1910, this is the set that Lew was referring to that includes Buck Hooker.

-Rhett

[FrankWakefield]

Right you are, Rhett. Sorry about that, I was out in left field...

Still, that player is in a "Fulton" uniform. Fulton, New York seems likely; but it could be for an independent Fulton team from New York or Kentucky... Forgetting the issue of who he is, that definitely says "Fulton" on there.

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

Right you are, Rhett. Sorry about that, I was out in left field...

Still, that player is in a "Fulton" uniform. Fulton, New York seems likely; but it could be for an independent Fulton team from New York or Kentucky... Forgetting the issue of who he is, that definitely says "Fulton" on there.

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Frank, no one is disputing that, the question is ... "Fulton" ... where, and does anyone have a picture of this Burke guy?

[FrankWakefield]

Well I'm still thinking Fulton, New York. But that questions the color Contentnea time line. Maybe the cards were printed in 2 bunches and one bunch was in 1910... Maybe the color cards are all 1910 cards, that's what I think.

[Leon]

Another follow up from the gentleman I am helping...


"Notice one of your guys found the "Burke" with both teams that Bourquin/Bourquise played for - I thought of that one myself but usually in misheard/misspelled names of the time they aren't made so much more amazingly complicated, they're made simpler. In short, Bourquin/Bourquise would more likely become "Burke" on a card rather than the other way around. Of course, maybe the cards were right and the league recordkeepers were wrong!

By the way, it's pretty evident that the Crockett card listed for T209-2 doesn't exist. Nobody's ever seen a scan even though it was reported, third hand, in 1987."

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by Leon

Another follow up from the gentleman I am helping...


"Notice one of your guys found the "Burke" with both teams that Bourquin/Bourquise played for - I thought of that one myself but usually in misheard/misspelled names of the time they aren't made so much more amazingly complicated, they're made simpler. In short, Bourquin/Bourquise would more likely become "Burke" on a card rather than the other way around. Of course, maybe the cards were right and the league recordkeepers were wrong!

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You're right about the other way around but do you suppose some one back 1909 said, "Let's have some fun, and play with the heads of 2009."

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By the way, it's pretty evident that the Crockett card listed for T209-2 doesn't exist. Nobody's ever seen a scan even though it was reported, third hand, in 1987."

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Lurker, whoever you are, you're a gem!

You hear that Ralphie

[rhettyeakley]

Leon, I have found w/ lower level minor league stuff often times that when there is only a last name on the SABR website that the info & stats come directly form the Spalding Record Book. It is very likely that the guys real name is Bourquise or Bourquin (or even the Bourquen I mentioned earlier) and the Spalding guys are the ones that called him "Burke" just to make their lives easier (I mean who is ever gonna notice?)

-Rhett