1909-1913 Spalding Official Baseball Record scans needed

[FrankWakefield]

Hey there, Rhett, 3 things...

1- I think that is a fantastic photo or cabinet, I'd love to have it.

2- I do not think Casey Stengel is depicted among those players. I am not certain of that, and I plan to study that when time allows.

3- I also don't think that's the 1910 team. I see the "S" on that hat. And I don't see a circle around the M on the sleeve. I'm not certain it isn't 1910, and I do think it is close to 1910... I'll cogitate on that, and opine later.

[FrankWakefield]

1911 Spalding Record Blue Grass League pages....

[FrankWakefield]

And 1912...

[FrankWakefield]

And a reminder...

The 1909 Record had stats for the 1908 season,

The 1910 Record had stats for the 1909 season,

The 1911 Record had stats for the 1910 season,

And that 1912 Record had stats for the 1911 season.


For non-believers, look at the first page of the BL stats in the 1912 Record, and it shows the Champions for previous years. Winchester won in 1909. The 1910 Record shows Winchester finishing in first. The 1909 Record shows Frankfort in first (they won in 1908).

[FrankWakefield]

Casey Stengel's stats are in the middle of the second page shown on the 1911 Record, page 256. Casey hit .223, his line is about in the middle of the page.

In looking at microfilm of old papers from 1909 and 1910, tickets for the Lexington Colts were 50 cents. That seems like quite a bit of money just to see a ball game back in 1910. I gotta figure a fellow could get into the bleachers in a major league game for 25 cents, but I don't know...

[FrankWakefield]

About Rhett's cabinet...

Below are the cards depicting Shelbyville or Maysville players from series 6. The eleven are: Delbert Chase, Dailey, Everden, Al Gisler, George Kircher, William Oyler, Lesle Ross, John Schultz, Casey Stengel, Charles Vallandingham and Louis Womble.

This team commenced the 1910 season in Shelbyville. The 1911 Spalding Guide says that " Shelbyville, predestined to the basement, did her duty nobly. The Shelbyville team became so disorganized late in August that the franchise and players were turned over to the league; Maysville, a prosperous manufacturing city, bought the franchise and completed the season with four or five regular players and numerous experiments."

George Kricher, Charles Vallandingham, and Louis Womble, the three players near the right below, are depicted in their Shelbyville uniforms. They are the only three players in the Old Mill red border set shown with a Shelbyville caption.

The other 8 are shown with a Maysville uniform. Each of these 8 Maysville players show the letter "M" within a circle. The players in that cabinet that show an "M" show one without any circle. The circle M uniforms must have been from the first year this team was in Maysville, the only year Casey Stengel was there... for the rest of August and then in September of 1910. I'll eventually check box scores for that time frame one day. I don't think that is a cabinet that depicts the 1910 Maysville team.



More in a few days.

Thank you so much for the information Frank, those are some great card images, and your spaliding images are vital to paper research I am doing. Can't wait to see your additional posts.

Tony