sfmays24 is a person of interest

mays-24 · #1 09-15-2009, 10:45 AM

Leon, this is Bob Rund. I've just noticed this post and can't believe your reckless actions by posting my name with false accusations. I've never been on the CU Board and don't know what you are talking about!!

Why didn't email me instead of using this for a Public Flogging, you should be a SHAME of yourself. Done give me the crap about protecting the Board, I have rights too!! Email me next time.

Barry amazing memory. I wish I had keep these T206's I bought from you.

Matt · #2 09-15-2009, 10:56 AM

Bob - it seems to have gotten cleared up pretty quickly that you're not involved in this mess. I suppose Leon should have changed the thread title.

Leon · #3 09-15-2009, 11:05 AM

I think you are overreacting a whole lot. I said it was a mistake. Have you ever made a mistake? You should be ashamed of yourself for not being able to see what went on. Please show me where there is a public flogging?

sfmays24 · #4 09-15-2009, 11:35 AM

Okay, for those who care to hear the truth on some of the latest accusations by PSA Forum members (who have joined to post here).

I will start by saying the vast majority of PSA Forum members are great folks, many (but not all) have posted positive replies to all the negative threads started by lsutigers1973... most (and I don't blame them) don't want to get involved in the mess, they know it means they will be attacked and have a life outside the Forum.

I would also like to apologize to fellow board member mays-24 (Bob) for causing him any grief in this mix-up... it was the reckless comments by a PSA Forum member who was responsible. I'm not sure why some folks think it's okay to start throwing stones just because others are, most have nothing to do with this mess and I guess it's just human nature-very sad.

nam812, I stand corrected on your reason for posting the PSA thread... I tried twice to respond on the PSA threads and each time lsutigers1973 just made more and more outrageous (lies) accusations... it is pointless to argue with a bully. I did offer anyone who had a gripe or concern to contact me and no one did. It was obvious that they preferred to just join the lynch mob and pile on the lies. Some people are easily swayed by the amount of lies, even if there is no proof... the lies just keep pile up and some say it must be true now, but that is not the case at all. No matter how many lies lsutigers1973 tells, they are still lies and show what kind of person he is (and as I stated before, I have never made a deal with him because I saw how he treated others from the day he joined).

Taxman, you forgot to mention all the relevant facts as you have in previous threads... I sent you the items and you know this to be true, based on the DC you found that the Post Office could not deliver the package to the address you provided. This package was being sent to some mail center near you, why didn't you ever mention these facts? Instead of taking me up on my offer for anyone who has a gripe with me to contact me, you just posted over and over again how I scammed you. I guess you got your $25 worth of revenge on me and must be proud of yourself now?

Jantz, I replied to your PM before seeing your message in this post and felt you preferred to back out of the deal based on your comments (and I understand why you feel that way). However, if you still want to make the trade my offer is still a good one-just let me know what you prefer.

As for the other 4 or 5, or 1000... or the $200, $500, or soon to be $10,000 deal I didn't follow through on... complete and total lies!

Mike

whitehse · #5 09-15-2009, 12:12 PM

As for the other 4 or 5, or 1000... or the $200, $500, or soon to be $10,000 deal I didn't follow through on... complete and total lies!

Well Mike I have been following this saga on both boards and I am now feeling compelled to respond. I have not been ripped off or anything like that but your comment above is not totally true.

I did send you about 400 2001 and 2002 Topps Heritage baseball cards back in November of 2008. I had receipts (and still do)and I do believe delivery confirmation on the rather large box but you stated to me that you never received these cards. Now these were sent for "you and the boys" and I did do it because I wanted to and never expected anything in return. It did really bother me that these cards were not received and I felt terrible to think that you might have thought I lied about sending them. So much so I even PM'ed you a copy of the receipt to prove my mailing. I was preparing a new box to send to you because I felt bad but as of yet have not figured out where I placed the remaining heritage cards so the box was not sent yet.

While I am not saying you ripped me off and I know the post office does lose items, I am saying that the 4-5 people on the PSA boards that sent you stuff and "it was never received" sure sends some red flags up...I would think even you can see my point on this.

Again, not saying you ripped me off but I think there is cause for concern and
to say this statement "As for the other 4 or 5, or 1000... or the $200, $500, or soon to be $10,000 deal I didn't follow through on... complete and total lies!" is not totally true

You have done nothing to dispel the issues about the non-deliveries. Have you talked to the postmaster in your area to tell him that you dont get a majority of your mail? Have you talked to them to find out how they can lose a 500 count card box placed inside a rather large brown box that was sent to you??

Alot of board members did something out of the goodness of their heart and wanted to help someone who we, well I felt was not well off financially get a solid start on collecting with his kids. Looking at the photos you showed on the PSA boards its obvious you have a real nice collection of graded cards. I am just feeling a little "taken" here if it is found out to be true that these cards were actually received. I dont have alot but I like to help others and I will really be disappointed if it comes out that I was lied to.

I think you owe it to at least 4-5 of us that sent you stuff and never expected anything in return, an explaination on why these cards were "never received".

Leon · #6 09-15-2009, 12:16 PM

I have to agree that if there is a loss of more than 1 item in a short period of time (say about a year) then there is reason to be concerned. I am still waiting to hear something about that aspect of this whole mess. I guess I do about 200-400 shipments (sending and receiving) a year and in 15 yrs have probably had about 1-2 items lost.....It very rarely happens, is my observation. I would like to hear more on these shipments that never got received... regards

sfmays24 · #7 09-15-2009, 12:19 PM

whitehse,

I'm not sure why you keep bringing this up in so many threads, what are you looking for from me?

Last year you offered to send us some cards and as we discussed so many times in your PM that we never received any. How is this a scam or rip-off, what would be the purpose to us claiming not to have received anything from you?

We never complained to you or thought you were not telling the truth in your PM messages, but still you feel a need to make such accusations over and over again-why? You state that you sent us some cards and have proof that we received them... and I state that is not the case. Feel free to post your proof that we received them, otherwise let it go as we did last year.

We thanked you for trying to help us, what more do you want from us?

Mike

sfmays24 · #8 09-15-2009, 12:24 PM

Leon,

We have made hundreds of trades & purchases with with fellow PSA & N54 board members over the years and I still feel the only legitimate non-delivery item resulted in my loss of the cards, $25 cash and a $25 graded card... I never blamed the sender in any way, didn't ask for a thing (nor did he offer any) I consider this matter closed and I thought the sender did as well.

How is this a an issue at all now and why has one person who has nothing to do with this made so much of it?

Mike

PS: not that it matters, but this issue and the one about us losing the cards, money & graded card (sent as part of the deal) both occurred last year and neither person took me up on my offer to settle any gripe they had with me. Instead they just joined the stone throwing and passed on their side of the story without mentioning all the facts.

whitehse · #9 09-15-2009, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfmays24

whitehse,

I'm not sure why you keep bringing this up in so many threads, what are you looking for from me?

Last year you offered to send us some cards and as we discussed so many times in your PM that we never received any. How is this a scam or rip-off, what would be the purpose to us claiming not to have received anything from you?

We never complained to you or thought you were not telling the truth in your PM messages, but still you feel a need to make such accusations over and over again-why? You state that you sent us some cards and have proof that we received them... and I state that is not the case. Feel free to post your proof that we received them, otherwise let it go as we did last year.

We thanked you for trying to help us, what more do you want from us?

Mike

I never said this was a rip off and I never said that you did not think I was telling the truth or wanted any more from you. I felt bad that a father and his sons who are trying to start a collection did not receive the cards that I had sent. Nothing more...nothing less.

I do think that you owe the people who sent you stuff that was lost in the mail at least a minimal effort on your part to investigate this on your end. I checked with my postmaster and as far as he found out the package was delivered but you state it wasnt. The only thing I would like from you is to find out from your postmaster why you are having such issues getting your mail and if they have any packages that are undeliverable laying around. A little effort on your end would have gone a long way to make us feel that you have a crappy PO and not something else.

As to what else I want from you...nothing more than the information I listed above. As to why you might do something like this...I really have no idea but as I said before.....too many lost packages does make a person wonder what the deal is.

mays-24 · #10 09-15-2009, 01:20 PM

We've all made mistakes. But you should know better after running this forum all these years about over reacting to an email. You should have emailed me first!!

Read your own words - He has registered with the name of Bob Rund. It seems as he is having some difficulties on the Collectors Universe board so I just want to alert our members to be careful too.

You are alerting the board about me without getting my side??

I enjoy most post on this board and I don't need you starting trouble.

Get over Leon you made a mistake.

Jim VB · #11 09-15-2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mays-24

We've all made mistakes. But you should know better after running this forum all these years about over reacting to an email. You should have emailed me first!!

Read your own words - He has registered with the name of Bob Rund. It seems as he is having some difficulties on the Collectors Universe board so I just want to alert our members to be careful too.

You are alerting the board about me without getting my side??

I enjoy most post on this board and I don't need you starting trouble.

Get over Leon you made a mistake.

Bob,

Go back and re-read the whole thread. Leon was very cautious about what he said. He made no accusations. He offered to let anyone who wanted come on the board and explain. You did that just fine. Your good reputation is intact. Hell, being a friend of Barry's will do that for you on this board.

In addition Leon apologized in two different threads (#5 and #14), if it was two different people.

The person in question was in the middle of a couple of deals involving board members. There was a need to get that info out, and Leon did it in a timely manner. When he was wrong on one point, he apologized, immediately.

I'd say, let it go.

bh3443 · #12 09-15-2009, 11:10 AM

Hi everyone,
Just a question for all the autograph experts about this guy's post for autographed 1961 Topps cards.
Is it possible to get a Rogers Hornsby signed 1961 card? I'm not sure
if he was alive then.
I knew a few oldtimers way back that did try completely signed sets
and in their 61 set they used a cut auto for the Ruth and Gehrig cards.
So, was Hornsby around in 1961? Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Bill
PS: One of my customers was down to 2 cards to finish his 1978 Topps set
way back. That's the closest I've seen! On my attempt in 1979, I got about 500 of them done via mostly mail back then. It was fun, especially when 5+ years later envelopes arrive with signed cards! Very hard signers were the players from South American countries.

barrysloate · #13 09-15-2009, 11:13 AM

Hi Bob- hope you are well. It certainly has been a very long time.

mays-24 · #14 09-15-2009, 01:24 PM

Hi Barry,

I was doing great until this morning.

How are are you doing? Are you getting excited about your Yankees?

Bob.

Jim VB · #15 09-15-2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bh3443

Hi everyone,
Just a question for all the autograph experts about this guy's post for autographed 1961 Topps cards.
Is it possible to get a Rogers Hornsby signed 1961 card? I'm not sure
if he was alive then.
I knew a few oldtimers way back that did try completely signed sets
and in their 61 set they used a cut auto for the Ruth and Gehrig cards.
So, was Hornsby around in 1961? Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Bill
PS: One of my customers was down to 2 cards to finish his 1978 Topps set
way back. That's the closest I've seen! On my attempt in 1979, I got about 500 of them done via mostly mail back then. It was fun, especially when 5+ years later envelopes arrive with signed cards! Very hard signers were the players from South American countries.

Bill,

Hornsby passed in January of 1963. I believe that in 1961 he was working for the Mets as a scout.

Rich Klein · #16 09-15-2009, 11:26 AM

So you could have gotten an in-person autograph during the 62 season

bh3443 · #17 09-15-2009, 11:28 AM

Thanks Jim. I appreciate your help.
Since we are on the subject, are these possible:
1963 Hubbs
1973 Clemente ( I doubt it)
1979 Munson

I want to thank you and the rest of our community for always sharing a wealth of information. Net54 is the best!

I hope you all enjoy this gorgeous day!
Regards,
Bill Hedin

Jim VB · #18 09-15-2009, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bh3443

Thanks Jim. I appreciate your help.
Since we are on the subject, are these possible:
1963 Hubbs
1973 Clemente ( I doubt it)
1979 Munson

I want to thank you and the rest of our community for always sharing a wealth of information. Net54 is the best!

I hope you all enjoy this gorgeous day!
Regards,
Bill Hedin

Here's the dates of each individual's death:

Hubbs - 02/13/64
Clemente - 12/31/72
Munson - 08/02/79

Hubbs and Munson are very possible. Clemente was card #50, so possibility depends upon exactly when Topps released the first series. Dave Hornish might know.

mays-24 · #19 09-15-2009, 01:30 PM

Hi Bill,

Hornsby could have and did sign his 1961 Topps card. There was a PSA/DNA signed 1961 Hornsby on Ebay last year. I wish I had bid on it.

I've been working on my signed 1961 set since 1988.

If anyone has any authentic signed 1961 Topps cards LMK.

Bob.

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