T206 Demmitt & O'Hara....are they 350-only Series cards ?

[ethicsprof]

Ted,
Thanks for the response.
You have indeed posted constructive facts supporting your contentions, and,
as i said in the earlier post, you have offered the best answer that i've seen.
I was simply wanting to help you save your house by reminding you that your having the best answer in no way means you have proven your contention unequivocally.
Certainly, if there are no hard facts dispelling your contentions, your best answer continues to rise brightly. But you are wise not to hold your 'breath' for someone to prove the negative and you would be just as wise not to hold your 'breath' believing you have proven your contentions herein. I simply mention this as I note your saying that 'in your book you have no doubts...'.
I for one am pleased to take a breath or two, my friend, and salute you and the brightness continuing to surround your best answer---but not a proven answer.

(On another topic, if you'll send me your address again, Ted, I have a T206 related item that i'd like to send to you as a response to our fabulous Drum transaction.)
best,
Barry

[tedzan]

Barry A

Thank you for your kind comments; and, I appreciate your residual skepticism. Can we prove my expressed contention that the
St Louis vars. of Demmitt & O'Hara are 350-only subjects, 100 years later ?....Not with 100% certainty.

However, we can refer back to actual T206 "finds" that will reinforce this contention. One such "find" has come to my attention.
And, a forthcoming post here, regarding this "find", I think should quite well settle this matter.


T-Rex TED

[ethicsprof]

Ted,
many thanks for the response.
i'm eager to see your new find!
any luck at Philly?

all the best, ole friend

barry

[tedzan]

Barry A

The T206 "find" I'm referring to is not mine. But, a well recognized member of Net54. I hope he
chimes in and posts it.

I will be emailing you.

No luck finding the card you requested.

T-Rex TED

[ethicsprof]

Thanks,Ted, for the efforts on my behalf; i'm sure the ole Kimball will rear its head
down the road.
I'll check my email to see the update on the find.

best,
Barry

[wonkaticket]

Wow you go away on business for awhile and all heck breaks loose…LOL

I will also agree that no theory is 100% on these cards but I’m up for 99% until some really serious stuff makes me think otherwise.

In regards to what series do Demmitt and O’Hara originate from I would agree with Ted 100% that these are most likely 350 series only cards.

I have many reasons for my views many of which mirror Ted’s for one I think they would have been covered with the team change to Montreal and Toronto. It seems logical seeing as they took the time to correct the St.Louis change for both Demmitt and O’Hara.

Second most of my set came from multiple finds within the Maryland area. One of the finds which did yield me my first Demmitt and O’hara was about 150-175+ T206’s all of which were 350 only Sweet Caporals and PB cards. Demmitt & O’Hara were present in this find. I had other finds and purchases over the years ranging from small 460 heavy finds to mix bagged finds of many, many cards Demmitt & O’Hara were not present in any of those.

I have long since upgraded my original Demmitt and O’Hara to the below.

Take this tid bit for what it’s worth but to me it really makes me lean to 350 only based on evidence and personal collecting experience.



So until I see one of the 2 below pop up I’m sticking in the 350 only camp on these cards…



Cheers,

John

[tedzan]

John

Thanks for posting your personal T206 "find" story that consisted of cards that were exclusively from the 350-only
series, which included the Demmitt and O'Hara (St Lo variations).

First hand finds like this one of yours provide us with more substantive evidence of how American Litho's designers
produced the various series of the T206 set, than any amount of our present day's T206 analysis, conjecture, and
argumentation ever can.


Hey John

I'll trade you my 1912 Imperial Tobacco Demmitt and O'Hara for your two sweet looking Eastern League proofs





EFHARISTO big guy....you are the man.....(Greek for a big THANK YOU).


TED Z

[ethicsprof]

John,

many thanks for the helpful corroborative evidence and for the pics
of your gorgeous cards.
And thanks to you, Ted, for the great research and the always fascinating
'detective' mystery!!!
best,
barry