T-210 Market

[FrankWakefield]

That's what I'm talking about!!! The T210 bug left teethmarks in poor old martindl....

James Fox played first base in Columbus, 1909 through 1915. He was with Portsmouth for 1916, his last year in professional baseball. Fox managed the 1910 Columbus Foxes.

Elmer Benson was a second sacker. He was with Columbus for part of 1909, all of 1910. In 1911 he moved up to class B ball. If you see him with a Columbus team for 1913, 1914, and 1915, that is the Columbus Senators in Ohio in the American Association, class AA ball. We've just past his birthday, September 11, 1884.

William Hille was a third baseman, he was with the Columbus Foxes for 1909, 1910, and 1911. In 1912 he moved to the class B Texas League, where he played until he returned to Columbus, Georgia for the 1917 season, appearing in 28 games, 9 of them as a pinch hitter.

So I think your bigger photos depict them from a bit earlier than 1916. Benson is only there for a year and a half... gotta be the end of the 1909 season, or the 1910 season.

One of the catchers for those 1910 Columbus Foxes was Raymond Krebs... I wonder if he was Maynard G. Krebs' grandfather...

Absolutely great photos!!! Do you have any more of those that don't match up to a T210?? And that's only your 8th post!@%$!% How can you have great stuff like that and be sitting on it?

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

One of the catchers for those 1910 Columbus Foxes was Raymond Krebs... I wonder if he was Maynard G. Krebs' grandfather...

Frank,

The Maynard G. Krebs joke will fly far over the head of most on this board, for age reasons. But all I can say is: "WORK!!!!"

[Rob D.]

A few of us understand the beauty of Maynard G. Krebs, and most of the folks could (sic) care less.

[martindl]

Thanks for the info Frank. The folder where these scans are kept I named "1909 Columbus", so that should have clued me in. I need coffee.

Re 8th post, I used to be a lot more active on here but now just look in a couple of times a week. I lost the bug, so to speak, hence the lack of activity.

I've got 11 photos in all. I don't want to derail this great thread, so will not post them all, but here are one of two more seeing as you asked.

After Jim's comment I had to look up Maynard G. Krebs. Very funny.

[barrysloate]

Maynard G. Krebs was Dobie Gillis's best friend, and Bob Denver's best role, long before Gilligan. His signature line: "Work!" (he had an aversion to it).

[Bill Stone]

Great photos --thanks for posting them. I still think Thalia Menninger (Tuesday Weld) was one of the prettiest girls on TV at the time.

[barrysloate]

Remember Warren Beatty as Milton Armitrage?

[Bill Stone]

and Michael J. Pollard played Maynard's cousin Jerome. Pollard later played C. W. Moss in Bonnie and Clyde ( great character!!) along with Beatty. So many of these early TV shows had characters who were with us for years to come which makes it fun to remember. Oh well , back to T210 cards .

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by martindl

Thanks for the info Frank. The folder where these scans are kept I named "1909 Columbus", so that should have clued me in. I need coffee.

Re 8th post, I used to be a lot more active on here but now just look in a couple of times a week. I lost the bug, so to speak, hence the lack of activity.

I've got 11 photos in all. I don't want to derail this great thread, so will not post them all, but here are one of two more seeing as you asked.

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When I first saw the photos, my first thoughts were that they were T209's, until I looked at the bottom captions.
Similar photos, different captions.

I'm more of a T209 type II nut, if you would, please post the rest of your scans, they would be great for comparisons.
Once again Martindl, Thank you.

BTW, does anyone know what set they come from?
Thanking all of you in advance.

[barrysloate]

Bill- Michael J. Pollard was also in an episode of The Andy Griffith Show, playing Barney's inept cousin.

[martindl]

Here you go Joe. Obviously whoever penned the names of the players didn't know much about them as half of them are misspelled.

[FrankWakefield]

Those are great photos. Really. I'd rather have those than T206 HOFers.

Those photos don't derail this thread, they are a testament to what can result from a little love for T210s.


With those photos, and with those associated T210s, you have to go to a library or historical society in Columbus, and get copies of the newspaper stories of coach Fox's Columbus Foxes of 1909 and 1910. There's one great book out there waiting to be written. The info can be collected, what would have been difficult would have been finding those images. And you have that!!! Baseball in Columbus, 1909 and 1910.


I'm glad some folks got the Krebs reference. How often is that Krebs name encountered?? Not very... Now the really trick question is what was Maynard G. Krebs' middle name. A bit of help, it didn't start with a G.... (This will derail T210 discussion.)

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by martindl

Here you go Joe. Obviously whoever penned the names of the players didn't know much about them as half of them are misspelled.

Those are beautiful!

Been checking my set, and the background is very much like many in the T209 Type II set.

Folks, I love the challenge of the T210 set, but the background of the T209's is where it's at.

Thanks again to Martindl, and anyone else that may have similar cards, "Come on down."

[mzm55]

What a great thread! Like many already here, I'm also ardent about the T210 set. The Columbus images posted about are truly fantastic. Though the cards are really great, I also enjoy photographs related to the teams.

Here's an imperial-sized cabinet photograph of the 1909 Norfolk team:



Here are the players' head shots paired with their T210s:



Joe,

I agree with you, nothing can match the backgrounds of the T209-2 cards.



-Zach Rice

[Kawika]

Frank: The "G" stood for Walter. Tesreau got his nickname for his supposed resemblance to boxer Jim Jeffries. Good SABR bio at this link: http://bioproj.sabr.org/bioproj.cfm?...=993&pid=14079
I got my T210 from a David Bryan eBay auction last October. I was surprised how little action it got. It's the only sale recorded in the vcp.com database. There's gotta be another one out there I'm sure.
Martin: Really, really cool photos. Thanks for posting them. If there are anymore please show 'em. Love all that wood and chickenwire, and the old draftsman lettering.
RDixon: Thanks for making Hub Northen come alive.
Potomac Joe: "The goy on the right"? And all this time I thought Angermeier was Jewish.
Zach: You should do your PhD in minor league T cards. Awesome post!

A great thread thus far. Terrific images and commentary, and even obscure pop culture references from the rockin' fifties.