Has anyone here tackled the 1952 Topps set?

[mightyq]

hi doug,
good post, i am currently building this set in psa 7 grade, i have 180 of the first 310...only highs i have are mantle, robinson, campy, . i do not consider the set complete until all the highs are done also. i started about 7 months ago, buying 7's are not hard at all, a select few are, black back etc, but overall doable. i figure the highs will take me 5 times longer than it takes me for the 1-310. thats if i want to get them in 7 grade...i might have to go with 5's and better to stay sane.

[pwilk17]

I have focused on the PSA master set of 490 cards - 1-80 in black and red backs - I do like the low number cards and have enjoyed obtaining one black and one red of each. I would like to complete the super master set including all of the gray backs.

[Doug]

I've considered trying to put together a lower grade G/VG set, but usually anytime I attempt building a set I end up running out of patience, money, or both. I recently picked up a PSA 1.5 Mantle so at least I have it out of the way, but it takes my budget so long to recover from a purchase like that I probably wouldn't be able to pick up any more cards for several months or longer. I mentioned in the latest pickup thread that I've actually owned three other '52 Mantles over the years (a SGC 30, PSA 3, and PSA 4), but anytime an unexpected expense came up the Mantle was always the first thing to go so I never got past one card. Maybe that's a sign I need to pick a cheaper set. I had a friend of mine that got 4 or 5 cards away from having the set finished and he ended up having to sell it. I'd like to give it another shot, but I guess I will wait and see. Good luck to all of you guys that are attempting the postwar "monster"!

[ALR-bishop]

I collect this set. I have the basic set of 407, plus 1-80 in both red and black back, plus the two black back versions of Sain and Page ( 3 variations in all). Also have the two variation of Mantle, Robinson and Thompson ( stiches on the back, and in the case of Mantle front differences as well) and the 3 variations of Campos ( regular, black star, and missing border).

I gave some thought to trying to do the grey back variations ( Canadians), but gave up in despair. Also have an unopened pack. It has always amazed me how many vitual unkowns are in the set, I assume as a result of the Topps/Bowman contract battles

[Doug]

Do you have a scan of the Campos with the missing border? I've never seen one.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Doug

Do you have a scan of the Campos with the missing border? I've never seen one.

I wasn't aware of the Campos lacking border-it it a print freak or a true variation? Also not aware of a 2nd star variation. Others not mentioned here that I have seen talked or written about (I don't own any) are shown below. Please confirm these as they are from various written sources, not scans.

42 Ketrow (BB) red or peach background.
43 Scarborough (BB) red or peach background
55 Boone (BB) Light Green or Dark Green background
55 Boone (RB) Light Green or Dark Green background
60 Wehmeier (BB) Yellow/Red or Orange/Red background
88 Feller Hazy or Clear background (this one I have seen)

What is in the PSA Super Set of 545 that brings the count so high?

[Doug]

Originally Posted by toppcat

What is in the PSA Super Set of 545 that brings the count so high?

Here's a checklist stating that it's a work in progress as new variations are graded: http://www.psacard.com/SetRegistry/S...on.aspx?c=6796

[ALR-bishop]

Dave...Is not the 545 figure inflated by the Canadians being added to the Registry master set ?

You know me and scans, Dave ( bishop). I can send you a color copy of the 3d Campos and you can post it. It is a print defect as opposed to a true variation, which I equate with an intentional change, like the 59 Spahn or option/trade changes ( but in my view the Herrer and Bakep are just print defects too, and maybe the Campos black star , although Levi disagrees with me on that). I have seen more than one of the Campos missing border cards on ebay, so it is not unique

I think I can send you color copies of some of the other front variations you asked about within the 1 to 80 group too if you want to see them.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by toppcat

I wasn't aware of the Campos lacking border-it it a print freak or a true variation? Also not aware of a 2nd star variation. Others not mentioned here that I have seen talked or written about (I don't own any) are shown below. Please confirm these as they are from various written sources, not scans.

42 Ketrow (BB) red or peach background.
43 Scarborough (BB) red or peach background
55 Boone (BB) Light Green or Dark Green background
55 Boone (RB) Light Green or Dark Green background
60 Wehmeier (BB) Yellow/Red or Orange/Red background
88 Feller Hazy or Clear background (this one I have seen)

What is in the PSA Super Set of 545 that brings the count so high?

The PSA list doesn't even have the six cards listed above or the Mantle, Robinson, and Thomson double prints with the stitching reversed so adding them would bring the total to 554. They also don't list the "Herrer", "Bakep", or Campos (missing border) variations/printing errors that have been mentioned in the last post which would now give us 557 and counting? Also did anyone figure out what the other possible "black star" card is?

[ALR-bishop]

Originally Posted by Doug

The PSA list doesn't even have the six cards listed above or the Mantle, Robinson, and Thomson double prints with the stitching reversed so adding them would bring the total to 554. They also don't list the "Herrer", "Bakep", or Campos (missing border) variations/printing errors that have been mentioned in the last post which would now give us 557 and counting? Also did anyone figure out what the other possible "black star" card is?

Sorry...the Herrer is 58 and Bakep is 57. They were just examples of printing defects treated like a variation. I do have the extra Campos, but it is clearly a print defect, although not an isolated one since I have seen it 3 times now. Not sure about the Mantle, Thompson and Robinson-- print defect or variation ?---and why is the stiching on the ball on the back reversed on those 3 ? There are actually noticeable and documented front differences on the 2 different Mantles, which I have, but I would guess they will never add a second Mantle to the Master set list given the cost involved, and, if not, the Thompson and Robinson will not likely be added either.

[ALR-bishop]

Originally Posted by toppcat

I wasn't aware of the Campos lacking border-it it a print freak or a true variation? Also not aware of a 2nd star variation. Others not mentioned here that I have seen talked or written about (I don't own any) are shown below. Please confirm these as they are from various written sources, not scans.

42 Ketrow (BB) red or peach background.
43 Scarborough (BB) red or peach background
55 Boone (BB) Light Green or Dark Green background
55 Boone (RB) Light Green or Dark Green background
60 Wehmeier (BB) Yellow/Red or Orange/Red background
88 Feller Hazy or Clear background (this one I have seen)

What is in the PSA Super Set of 545 that brings the count so high?

David---I have these except the Scarborough

[ncinin]

I noticed this card in a collection I picked up awhile back. You can see that part of the top/left border is missing. I kept it in case it became a desirable variation at some point in the future.