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The question was the better hitter not the best player. Ted Williams played ball up to age 42 (avg that year .316), 2 years longer than Ruth (age 40 hit .181) did. Won MVP upon his immediate return to baseball having missed 3 years due to military service. Ted hit below 300 only once in his career and Ruth hit below 300 five times. And don't forget Ruth never hit over .400 either. I'm sure if Ted weighed an extra 50 pounds, he probably could have put a little more HR's on his record. Ted has the best OBP of all time. Ted also tried his hand at pitching, but wasn't as successful as Ruth.
Can't go wrong with either in my opinion though. |
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According to Ted, the Babe struck out too much and Cobb was a slap hitter. Williams has some nice things to say about Hornsby's swing, though. He also says that the old-timers say that Joe Jackson had an amazing swing and that they tried to copy it, but Ted doesn't draw any comparisons or contrasts between his approach and Jackson's. As far as I can tell, it's close but I'd lean to the Babe.
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the Babe...better than Ted, better than anyone,ever.
best, barry |
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So I guess Ted Williams= John Wayne and Babe Ruth= Superman. Probably not really fair to compare anyone to Babe Ruth.
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by the country's top Ruthian scholar, Bill Jenkinson.
This is not another Babe Ruth biography. Jenkinson's authoritative, illustrated analysis of Babe Ruth's batting prowess will end this debate once and for all, I assure you. I once read a great quote about Ruth that went something like this: You can't explain Babe Ruth. He's like da Vinci and Einstein. Freaks of nature. Just accept it and move on. Best, Jimmy |
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but if we are gonna factor in Williams war years we should also factor in the deadball era years for The Babe. he played his first 6 seasons with every illegal ball available to pitch to him, with the umpire rarely changing the ball in a game (thus it getting way dirty and way harder to see), and he had to hit a deader ball then what Williams ever had to contend with. The case in point, BEFORE they undeaded the ball he topped the all tiem hr per season record by twice as much. The year they undeaded it he beat his own record by twice as much. And Williams coundlt pitch.
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1. The first "season" was in 1914 as a 19 yr. old rookie pitcher where he saw a whopping 10, yes 10, at bats and got 2 hits (1 more and he would have been ".300") 2. The 2nd season was in 1916 as a 21 yr old PITCHER!, he got 136 ABs hitting .272 (not bad for a pitcher)***as a side note he also won 23 games and posted a 1.75 era with 9 shut outs and not allowing 1 HR in 323.2 IP. Oh yeah and he won a World Series Game. 3. 1925 98 gm. 426 abs .290, okay I'll give you that one in a short yr. 4. 1934 age 39 471 abs .288, okay, give you that. 5. 1935 age 40, overweight, washed up 28 games only 92 abs, dreams of managing, hits .181. Looking at these numbers I see at most 2 legimate seasons as a hitter that he hit bellow .300. Also, he may never have hit .400 but he did hit .393-41-141 with over 150 run, and 170 walks in 1923. And in 1921 hit .378 59hr 171 Rbi 177 runs, the most ridiculous year by a hitter ever. Ted also only pitched 2 total innings ever giving up 1 run, so I can't say he was successful or not, he just didn't really pitch at all. Ruth was considered one of the best Lefty's in the game. Most definatley would have been HOFer as a Pitcher, if not an All time great Pitcher. finished with .671 win % almost winning 100 games with 2.28 era
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