Not prewar but....Topps '52 Mantle on eBay...

[Doug]

Hopefully PSA takes some kind of approach to help stop this kind of stuff. As someone who mostly collects postwar cards it's a huge concern since it seems like about 90% of graded postwar cards are PSA graded. It seems like scammers are getting less greedy. Instead of trying to pass off a fake PSA 8 Mantles, they are dropping down to lower grade ones. That PSA 1 Mantle looks like someone bought a legit PSA 1 1952 Topps card and changed the name to Mickey Mantle, the number to 311, and certification number to match a real '52 Mantle while leaving the rest of the text intact which at least shows a difference so you can tell the label was altered. Still a PSA 1 common is probably a $5 investment and after some label doctoring and a fake Mickey Mantle in the holder, you have a $4k card. After a couple of those deals they could afford to buy a legit '52 Mantle and all they would have to do is switch out the real card with a fake and keep resubmitting the real card for more legit labels and holders. The possibilities are scary.

[HOFAUTOS]

Im sure those Mantles are from the Criagslist scams of PSA cards that was going on. A little Photoshop to produce a flip, and fake cards.

There have been numerous threads about it over on CU, if I find the time and not drunk , i'll post them here

[onlychild]

Flip (and slab) doctoring is nothing new. It has been discussed on Net54 in detail several times in the past, in great detail. The results of the Mantle flip(s) are somewhat novice. A well made flip is very difficult to recognize without a very close examination or a side by side comparison with one that is real.

To the best of my knowledge, all grading companies are aware of this issue. PSA, Beckettt and GAI have "definitely known" about this, for at least a couple years. Some have taken proactive steps to make their flips/slabs more secure. Not only does PSA know but almost perfectly forged flips have been sent for their review...still nothing.

Kevin

[Doug]

Originally Posted by onlychild

Some have taken proactive steps to make their flips/slabs more secure.

Could you please elaborate on this statement? It would be good to know which companies are actually doing something about this problem.

[Doug]

For what it's worth, here's the follow up response I got from PSA about the fake '52 Topps Mantles in the PSA holders on ebay:

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We are looking into it the matter and will work directly with eBay and the seller if corrective action is required.

Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns.

Kristie Gallant

PSA Customer Service