The Trader Speaks - 1st issue Nov 1968

[Leon]

I was speaking with my good friend Lyman Hardeman of Oldcardboard Magazine yesterday, concerning some things in this thread. We were talking about archives etc...and he reminded me that there are over 800 articles posted on their website right now....Before we get going too hard on archiving we should probably see what has been done so far and then maybe just add to it? I know Lyman is a great sport about this stuff so thought I would mention it..(this is under "articles" on their homepage)..regards

http://www.oldcardboard.com/ref/BBC-...earchIndex.asp

[Oldtix]

I've been a SABR member since 1987; we just had an inaugural Columbus chapter meeting last Saturday and are just now defining our objectives. At the initial meeting, about 35 people showed up and I got the impression that most are collectors of artifacts and memorabilia, not just stats. I'll see if there's interest at our next meeting.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Leon

he reminded me that there are over 800 articles posted on their website right now....

From my experience what he has up are the bibliographies of the articles, not the actual articles themselves.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Matt

From my experience what he has up are the bibliographies of the articles, not the actual articles themselves.

I had only clicked on the OldCardboard articles that are indexed and they DO have the articles HOWEVER you are absolutely correct otherwise. So, we still have some work to do there/here..Thanks for the clarification Matt...

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Leon

I had only clicked on the OldCardboard articles that are indexed and they DO have the articles HOWEVER you are absolutely correct otherwise. So, we still have some work to do there/here..Thanks for the clarification Matt...

I am actually talking about full scans of each pub. In my three decades of doing hobby research, I find the ads have just as much information as do the articles. If you took all the issues of the major pubs, which are all B&W low-res, I'll bet the amount of data would be fairly minimal. I'm not counting pubs that are still active of course.

The SABR subcommittee idea is interesting-I proposed it years ago when I was a member and believe they had such a committee at one time but could be mistaken in that regard. If I was retired I'd seriously consider getting one going but that's a few years, off, depending upon the 200.5K plan.....

[E93]

Originally Posted by toppcat

I am actually talking about full scans of each pub. In my three decades of doing hobby research, I find the ads have just as much information as do the articles. .

I agree, they can be incredibly informative about a different historical time in the hobby. It would a huge project for somebody to scan all of these out of print publications and make them available in some way, but what an incredible resource it could be.

Do any of the lawyers here know what the copyright laws are with regard to out of print publications?
JimB

[Rickyy]

Thanks for posting the original issue Leon. I think I still have a few of mine from the mid to late 70's that I ordered as a teen. It's fun to go back and look at the prices and articles and recall the names of people from those ads. I think I found Dick Reuss and Jim Elder from those publications.

Ricky Y

[steve B]

Originally Posted by E93

I agree, they can be incredibly informative about a different historical time in the hobby. It would a huge project for somebody to scan all of these out of print publications and make them available in some way, but what an incredible resource it could be.

Do any of the lawyers here know what the copyright laws are with regard to out of print publications?
JimB

Sadly it doesn't require a lawyer. Out of print, in print it's mostly still under copyright. Of course, for some of those publications getting permission would be pretty easy. SCD is pretty much the only one that would really cost, and stuff like - I think Ive got it right- "current card prices" which was put out by legal action by Beckett. That one might be problematic.

I have a bunch of old stuff, not as impressive a collection, but I could do some scanning.

I also have a bit of a collection of hobby supplies. Various pages etc going back to 1974.

Steve B

[Rich Klein]

It was Card Prcies Update (CPU) which went out of business due to Beckett/Eckes winning the law suit. Noted hobbyist Herman Kaufmann was the attorney for the Jim Beckett and the late Dennis Eckes.

Since this board has so many lawyers, here is a link to that decision

http://openjurist.org/736/f2d/859/ec...-prices-update

CCP continued on into the early 1990's and the final "issue" of CCP was not an issue but a one-page letter in which the editor/Publihsher said amongst other things that one of his kids was a "government pet". After that, there was no more CCP.

Regards
Rich