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Old 09-02-2009, 04:20 PM
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Some thoughts on the 12 350-only subjects that have been seen with OM but not EPDG:

1. Of the 12, three, namely, Brown (Wash.), Dahlen (Brooklyn), Elberfeld (Wash. Portrait), are really bifurcated 150/350 subjects that experienced the 350 portion of the 150/350 print run, their predecessors G. Brown (Chicago), Dahlen (Boston) and Elberfeld (N.Y.) having undergone the 150 portion of the 150/350 print run. Moreover, Dahlen (Boston) and Elberfeld (N.Y.) were even extended nominally into the 350 portion before being replaced by their successors Dahlen (Brooklyn) and Elberfeld (Wash. Portrait). Accordingly, we know that these "three amigos" Brown (Wash.), Dahlen (Brooklyn) and Elberfeld (Wash. Portrait) were not introduced until the END of the 350 portion of the 150/350 print run.

2. Meanwhile, the EPDG print occurred at the BEGINNING of the 350 portion of the 150/350 print run. We know this because Ted has identified the "elite eight" 150/350 subjects that were removed from print before the other 150/350 subjects and appear with only two 350 series backs--Piedmont 350 and EPDG (and in very small quantities with these backs).

3. Based on 1 and 2, it is unsurprising that these "three amigos" appear with OM but not with EPDG. Indeed, it would be surprising if the situation were otherwise.

4. I cannot explain why there are nine other 350-only subjects that appear with OM but not EPDG. Could it be that time will reveal these nine subjects with EPDG, or that they were printed with EPDG but all examples have been lost to time?

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Old 09-02-2009, 04:52 PM
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Matt,

As Scot mentions, there's pretty solid evidence that Piedmont-brand cards were the first or coincident with the first T206 cards printed in each series. If Demmitt and O'Hara were 350-460 cards we'd expect to find at least some Piedmont-backed examples.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:56 PM
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As Scot mentions, there's pretty solid evidence that Piedmont-brand cards were the first or coincident with the first T206 cards printed in each series. If Demmitt and O'Hara were 350-460 cards we'd expect to find at least some Piedmont-backed examples.
Jamie - that's interesting. I'd still be interested in the comparative PB back numbers I requested as that would seem to me to be more concrete then an assumption that PBs in the 350-460 series were printed after Piedmont backs from the same series, but I do understand your logic.
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Hey guys, I'm on vacation, but I have to respond to the "doubting thomas" here.

Scot, please check-out your 14,000 card survey in the 350-only section. If I recall correctly,
the average quantity of the PB cards in that column are very comparable to the quantity of
the St Louis Demmitt and O'Hara cards.

Whereas, the average quantity of PB cards in your 350/460 section is approx. double the ave-
rage quantity that is in the 350-only section.

If this doesn't settle this debate, then I give up !


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Hey guys, I'm on vacation, but I have to respond to the "doubting thomas" here.
I'm not doubting, just trying to understand.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:40 PM
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Ted,

Interesting point on the PB survey data re Demmitt and O'Hara (St. Louis).

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