What can you tell me about my card?

[barrysloate]

It certainly was kept in great condition. Nice card!

[Anthony S.]

Perhaps it's just the scan or how and where your card was stored over the years, but I'm not sure what to make of that back. 1911 Obaks have red printing on a white back. The back of your card, in the scan at least, looks as if the red printing is on brown cardboard. I've attached a scan of a 1911 Obak for comparison sake.

[ullmandds]

As Anthony has stated...the back looks strange...I don't like the color of the stock and the print of the back. I'm suspicious!

[barrysloate]

Could it just be very badly toned? Perhaps if it lay on a newspaper for decades the acids in the paper would soak into the card.

Or it's a fake. Tough to tell from the scan.

[Ladder7]

If any of my grandkids turn out to be punks, Im leaving 'em the counterfeits.

[Big Bone]

LOL, na it's not a fake (at least I hope not). The back was shot with my old digital camera and the flash kind of screwed it up. I tried to fix it in photoshop so that the writing was legible hence why it looks so strange. I don't have a scanner otherwise I would of used that instead.

Thats neat that it's worth up to $275ish. I may be looking to sell it but I'm not 100% on that right now. I also took a look at the other cards and they are old turn of the century hockey cards. Some are in great shape but most have damaged backs. From what it looks like I think someone glued it to a book or something so some are a little ripped up looking. Do any of you guys know where a good forum like this one would be for hockey cards? I don't think I could get much for them but I'd still like to know.

Anyways thats exciting never the less about the Obak card I've got. I'll try to get a better pic up for you guys on the back, sorry for the crappy shot.


BB

[pwilk17]

Hey BB - shoot me an email if you like and I can help you with the hockey cards.

[FrankWakefield]

Here's a bit about the player....

Frank Julian (Francisco) Arellanes. Boston, AL. Born January 28, 1882, Santa Cruz, California; died December 13, 1918, San Jose, California. A right handed pitcher, Frank, of Mexican – American decent, began organized play in 1903, for both the San Jose of the California State League, and then for the San Francisco Seals of the Pacific Coast League (who tried him in the outfield for a few games). Frank was back with the San Jose CSL team for 1904, 1905, and part of 1906, but he joined with the PCL’s Fresno Raisin Eaters for part of their long 1906 season, playing third base for 52 games, and pitching 7 innings in one game. He hit only .164. Frank attended Santa Clara University in 1907 and the spring of 1908. Then, Frank played in his first major league game on July 28, 1908, for the Boston Red Sox, where he played for 3 years, winning 24 games and losing 22, with solid ERA’s of 1.82, 2.18, and 2.88. Cy Young was with Boston in 1908, Arellanes stepped into the rotation the next season. 1909 was his best season, when he had 30 of his 51 career starts and posted a 16-12 record, to lead the team, 3 more wins than Eddie Cicotte and 5 more than Smokey Joe Wood. He led the league that year with relief wins (3) and saves (8); he allowed a stingy 1.68 walks every nine innings. Illness brought an end to his major league career, and he was back to California. He did pitch in 15 games, and appeared in 2 others for the Sacramento Solons of the PCL in 1910. He worked the mound for the Solons for 3 more years, posting records of 7-8, 22-16, and 13-17. The Sacaramento team moved to Mission in 1914, Frank was 10-18 that year under manager Harry Wolverton. Frank pitched for the Denver Bears of the Western League in 1915, going 4-4. His last 2 years as a player were 1916 and 1917, with the PCL’s Vernon Tigers. Frank was 8-6 in 1916, and 1-1 in 9 games in 1917. His team-mates at Vernon in 1916 included pitchers Jack Quinn and Art Fromme, catcher Boss Schmidt, and second baseman Swede Risberg of Blacksox notoriety. Frank died short of his 37th birthday from the Spanish Flu pandemic, he was buried at Oak Hill Memorial Park in San Jose.

[Old Mill Man]

I'd be interested in the Hockey cards as well.