Pair Of Goodwin & Co Old Judge "Proof" Photos - Knowledge Wanted

[Joe_G.]

They are in fact James Burns (presumably a reversed image of pose 56-7) and Abner Boyce (33-3). They certainly date to well after the ATC (American Tobacco Company) formation (1890), likely early 20th century. I'm aware of two different glass plate negatives of James Burns, pose 8 and a yet to be catalogued pose 10 (that will never be catalogued unless an N172 or N173 of said image is found). A surprising number of the remaining glass plate negatives and photos developed from long lost negatives are not catalogued.

Hard to assign a value to your examples, but I suspect an actual N172 of 56-7 (a missing image in the book) would bring more money than the above example.

Good luck with them.

[bbitt]

Interesting, thanks! I am waiting to hear back from REA about their estimates. I do need to sell these in hopes of buying more. Do i hear any offers?

[Hal Kaplan]

The back of the Washington player says "Boyce" and "Washington Club", but the "b" in "Club" is cut off.

[drc]

I have seen some of these 'proofs' in person, and they had the same kind of alligator skin surface to the images as yours. It's something I never noticed until I looked at one up close and in person, but your close up shows it.

[jbsports33]

Brain,

REA is a good resource for your proofs, that is were I got the estimates for you photos from their ending auctions –research is key with these because many photos surfaced that were not originally from the 1880s, but from the 1900s as stated above by member drc and reprint types have been found.

good luck

Jimmy