Show off the card scans that you've modified...

[V117collector]

I don’t think it's wise to make accusations regarding how or/if a photo has been modified (enhanced). For instants the pic on the left is from a digital camera and the one on the right is from a (low quality) scanner which has been sharpened to show viewer unseen detail.

So Brad is this consider in your view computer modification?

[leftygrove10]

The difference between the picture from the digital camera and the scanner is interesting. You certainly can't see all of the detail from the camera image.

I think modifying the scan (or tuning the scanner) to show off the imperfections of the card in preparation for sale is fine, especially when viewing the choice of selling the card based on the camera image and selling the card based on the scan on the right.

If things were reversed and you had tuned your scanner to remove the creases, then tried to sell the card based on that "improved" scan, that would be wrong.

As far as computer modifications of scans, I had in mind more than "tuning" software to make scans brighter or darker. I was thinking more along the lines of using brushes within software programs to cover up writing, creases, etc. I know there are others on the board who have messed around with using software to hide missing corners or holes on the card.

I should say that the images of my cards above were modified only for use on my website and not with the intent of scamming anyone.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by V117collector

the one on the right is from a (low quality) scanner which has been sharpened to show viewer unseen detail.

That's a little tricky; technically, digitally sharpening an image is adding edges to the image that don't actually exist in the image, not exposing things that are hidden in the scan.

Generally speaking most scans nowadays are "doctored" somewhat as by default, most software does some adjusting.

I think the bottom line on this issue is that if the scan is changed to look more like the card actually looks in person then it's kosher; if it's done to make the card look better then it does, then it's problematic.

[baseballart]

I wouldn't even begin to know how to modify a card using software

[V117collector]

Originally Posted by Matt

That's a little tricky; technically, digitally sharpening an image is adding edges to the image that don't actually exist in the image, not exposing things that are hidden in the scan.

Generally speaking most scans nowadays are "doctored" somewhat as by default, most software does some adjusting.

I think the bottom line on this issue is that if the scan is changed to look more like the card actually looks in person then it's kosher; if it's done to make the card look better then it does, then it's problematic.

Originally the scan (on the right) was blurred due to being encapsulated then sharpened to clear up the Fogginess, which worked. Nothing was adding or replaced in this process. Simply done for unseen detail!

The scan on the left was from a digital camera w/ the flash on. This was used so the background reflection wouldn’t be present in the pic. No sharpening tool was used.

As for your statement “digitally sharpening an image is adding edges to the image that don't actually exist in the image, not exposing things that are hidden in the scan.” Like Max said, I wouldn't even begin to know how to modify a card using software.

[onlychild]

Not a sports card but a CDV...same process though. Stains removed throughout, holes removed at top, color added and picture enhanced. Took about 3 hours or so. There were also tons of spots removed not really visible to the naked eye. The stains on top were left because I decided to crop the entire picture from the borders for a better digital display.






Kevin

[leftygrove10]

Brad:

I think Max was being sarcastic when he said that he doesn't know how to use software to enhance cards. I think Max used software on his Cracker Jack to make it appear much better than it actually is.

Max:

Please show us a scan of the actual card...

[Matt]

Originally Posted by V117collector

As for your statement “digitally sharpening an image is adding edges to the image that don't actually exist in the image, not exposing things that are hidden in the scan.” Like Max said, I wouldn't even begin to know how to modify a card using software.

Brad - I'm not suggesting you did anything wrong as your sharpening was to make the card look more like it does in person; I was just explaining that technically, when you apply sharpening, you are adding data to the scan that isn't actually there. On top of that, even if you don't know how to modify the scan in other ways, I bet the software is already doing it for you automatically.

[baseballart]

The Bob Brown Vancouver Cracker Jack is a purely imaginary card, combined from 2 others, a cj card and Bob Brown's Obak card.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by baseballart

The Bob Brown Vancouver Cracker Jack is a purely imaginary card, combined from 2 others, a cj card and Bob Brown's Obak card.

Oh, so what you're saying is that you didn't mess with the scan.

[Kawika]

I buffed up my T210 Stengel a tad and gave it a grade bump as well in order to yank Jim Crandall's chain a year or two ago.