** BST Warning - Brandon Brown **

[chris6net]

I feel for both sides but in the end Leon and his group have made the right decision. Brandon is probably a great guy but the BST board does need any complaints as we are a small community. Maybe after a few months the ban might be lifted but if I was posting on the BST I would hope for no problems. Thanks Leon and crew for all your work. CN

[cyseymour]

Considering that he never stole anything, the ban seems a bit draconian. Maybe a one-year suspension or something like that would be more reasonable. Also, I don't see why he should be called out in this manner since he never stole anything - it's not like people needed to know this information in order to protect themselves.

[Reginald Marsh]

I love the word "draconian"

[zork1974]

At least Brandon apologized and thanked everyone for their business. However, I'll pose this question. How many people are using this board as a sales tool only? To use the BST and state that "there are very few points of interest outside the BST for me" makes me wonder...

[Matt]

Originally Posted by zork1974

At least Brandon apologized and thanked everyone for their business. However, I'll pose this question. How many people are using this board as a sales tool only? To use the BST and state that "there are very few points of interest outside the BST for me" makes me wonder...

I think the number who only use the BST is only surpassed by the number who only come on the main forum to ask a question about what they have only so that they can then, in turn, sell it on the BST.

[shammus]

"....it's not like people needed to know this information in order to protect themselves..."


I think you missed the point. This reason is exactly why we post on the board about things like this. Also, I don't think we've ever banned anyone permanently. Even when we've banned Brandon in the past, we've always let him back on in a few weeks or so.

Brandon, I do appreciate you coming on and giving your take. Hope there are no hard feelings and that we see you on the board again from time to time.

[Browncow75]

Hey Guys,
Just wanted to post again and say, that indeed I have no hard feelings or harbor ill will toward anyone on the board, be it moderators or other members. I completely understand the reason for the moderators decision and respect the job they do, and have done. As Leon and Brian have stated, I have hope that once I am able to get myself in a better position personally, I will be allowed to be a part of the BST section again at some point. I will occasionally check with them to let them know of my progress in improving my abilty to be a reliable and productive member of the site in the BST forum. Not to get into detail, but it does have alot to do with my financial situation, and my "overwillingness" to spread myself to thin at times. I understand that I may not be able to be up there with the "big timers" when it comes to my collection, but I still seem to over do it at times. I guess it is a and "addiction" of sorts that I need to work on. Im not making excuses, just hopefully discovering a little about my personality that I need to work on! I dont drink or do drugs, so maybe this is my "vice". Well I will leave it at that, and contrary to the way it came out, I do find information on the site helpful, I just meant that my current collecting interests are very specific, and I dont really see much relevant subject matter come up that often. I didnt mean it the way it sounded. Thanks again to those who spoke up in support of me, and also to those who I have let down, thanks for your personal and professional courtesy to not site specific details on the main board regarding our deals. Lastly, as I stated, I have no ill weill toward any of the moderators, but everyone else seemed to weigh in with their position on whether to post or "out" someone who has been banned, on the main page. I dont really think its necessary, because if individuals contact the mods about a particular issue with another member, it should stay between them (the compalintant) and the mods. If the person is to be banned, only the people who are involved should be notified. Posting a thread in this manner may only stand to "villify" the banned person to people who otherwise wouldnt have had any idea there was an issue, especially considering that the banned person wouldnt be there to do anymore damage. Just my 2 cents on the issue. Thanks all!

Brandon B

[cyseymour]

[QUOTE=shammus;742110]"....it's not like people needed to know this information in order to protect themselves..."


I think you missed the point. This reason is exactly why we post on the board about things like this. Also, I don't think we've ever banned anyone permanently. Even when we've banned%2

[Leon]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

Considering that he never stole anything, the ban seems a bit draconian. Maybe a one-year suspension or something like that would be more reasonable. Also, I don't see why he should be called out in this manner since he never stole anything - it's not like people needed to know this information in order to protect themselves.

First of all thanks to Brandon for being a man about this. This says a hell of a lot to me (and it's all good). He's not a bad guy but just gets in over his head on transactions. He knows it. It's not like there aren't a thousand more card addicts (definitely me included) on this site BUT we usually don't make deals we can't follow through with OR take way too long. Brandon did have a few month ban previously, before this one, and I am all for giving him another chance in the future.....say 6 mos. to a year. He has never committed fraud or stolen anything so there is/was no serious harm ever done. I would think of this more as a cooling off period....We (the moderators) will continue to what we feel is in the best interest of our community. I think everyone knows all of the moderators (4 of us) so know that it's not like any of us are going to be a push over or do something we don't feel is right, regardless of the other mods on the team. If this had gone to our vote and one of us had a huge issue then I am sure we would have thought it through some more. In the end it was the right decision and Brandon is welcome on the main board...and in time probably back on the BST..Our community also has a way of self policing itself. Had we made a huge mistake I am sure it would have been made known. best regards

ps...as far as using the board as a sales tool only, there is no rule against that, as long as everyone plays nicely. I have to get involved (I don't like to) in approx. less than 5 transactions per yr, so I would say that is pretty good.