O/T John Smoltz

[slidekellyslide]

I think Glavine is a lock for first year of eligibility....who else are they going to put in? We're getting to the point where it's guys who played in the steroid era and the writers have already made it clear that anyone even suspected isn't going to go in.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I think Glavine is a lock for first year of eligibility....who else are they going to put in?

I agree completely. The guy won 300 games -- how many guys can say that? He's a lock to get in his first year.

[tbob]

It's not surprising that "surly guys" with better stats don't get in the Hall for a long time (or at all) while smiling "good guys" do. I guess if Bert Blyleven had been more personable, he would have been in years ago. Look at his number of shutouts, complete games, (yes he didn't quite win 300 games), and top 5 all time in strikeouts and tell me why he is not in. I believe he won World Series games for 2 different clubs (Twins and Pirates) and pitched much of his career for miserable teams.
Maybe Smoltz is deserving but if he is, you've got to let Bert in.

[FrankWakefield]

Quan, that's what I was thinking after Carter and Puckett got in...


Smoltz was a good pitcher. I enjoyed seeing him work. I think he'll eventually make the Hall. I don't think that he should, but he will. I think Glavin and Maddux will get in, and Blyleven should.

[sbfinley]

Eventually, yes each will be enshrined. I know there have been cases before, Ripken, Ruth, Cobb, Aaron..., but seriously if Maddux isn't unanimous.... remove their vote.

[zork1974]

He's a lock. Did anyone mention the strikeouts? Over 3000 and 16th on the all-time list.

Plus, if Mariano is the best reliever of all time due to his playoff performances, Smoltz is a shoe-in with the most wins in postseason history by a starting pitcher.

I think the more important question is this. Who else is going to retire this season? As we all know, sometimes the competition determines how the voting goes.

By the way, some of the earlier posts seemed to question Maddux (maybe it was just the way the posts came across). As sbfinley stated, "but seriously if Maddux isn't unanimous.... remove their vote." Guys, he's one of the greatest pitchers of all time. Maddux had better best Seaver at 98.84%. I can't fathom why anyone wouldn't vote for him.