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Old 08-07-2009, 05:05 PM
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The operative words here are...."new set"....but, it really cannot be classified as a "new set" ? ?

I say this because these cards are not only the identical pictures as the 1947 Bond Bread issue;
but, they have the beveled corners specifically designed to conform to the packaging of the Bond
Bread loafs.

This tells us that early in 1949, Page's Milk Co. acquired the EXACT cards from the Bond Bread
issue (unknown how or why) and used them for their purposes....therefore, I cannot agree with
you that it is a "new set".

If these cards were SQUARE cornered, then I would perhaps agree that these cards were speci-
fically meant as Page's Milk premiums.

TED Z
We can certainly agree to disagree on this. Please show me where Bond Bread sent these to Page Milk. I think it more likely that Page Milk got the phone number of the producer of the cards and asked them to send them some. I can hear it now

"Hey Joe, send 2 boxes of those cards to this address instead of the regular address"....... Just my theory

...and that is all we have are theories. I like your theory but I like mine too.....It's a new set to me...that's my story and I am sticking to it

edited to add that I obviously agree with Ted that it is not a new set, physically.

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Old 08-07-2009, 08:09 PM
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Default Leon....et al

The ROUNDED cornered cards shown here are from my original set of 44 cards that I collected as a kid in 1947 (into 1948).
As I've said before, these Bond Bread cards are my very first BB cards; therefore, I have very fond memories of them.

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Note the Tommy Holmes card, it is identical to the Page's Milk card you have. It is my understanding that all 48 cards that
were offered by Page's Milk are identical to the 1947 Bond Bread issue.

Also, Joe Gordon card with the Yankees logo on his uniform that denotes that the Bond Bread set was designed in 1946.

Most important for you to note here is the 2-card examples of Larry Jansen and Vern Stephens. From the printer these
cards were shipped to the Bond Bread factory as SQUARE cornered cards. A die-cut machine at the Bond Bread factory
beveled the corners in order to conform to their bread packaging.

The point I am getting at here, is that the Page Milk cards were acquired directly from the Bond Bread facility.


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Old 08-07-2009, 08:15 PM
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It's always exciting when a new set is discovered.

Thanks for posting your pickup, Leon.
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Old 08-08-2009, 07:10 AM
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I think Jeremy W's comment succinctly sums my argument......that the Page's Milk cards were not acquired from the
printer of the Bond Bread cards. But, were perhaps acquired directly from the Bond Bread factory........

"Ted's point about the rounded corners for distribution in the bread loaves is also interesting, as I can see no reason
for the rounded corners when distributed with milk."


If you dial back in the archives, one of my threads on the Bond Bread cards focuses on the 1947 ROUND cards vs the
subsequent SQUARE cards issues.

Furthermore, this would be a more interesting debate, if we could find out some thing about Page's Pittsburgh Milk Co.

TED Z

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Old 08-08-2009, 07:40 AM
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Is it possible that when Bond Bread was finished with their promotion, they had a surplus of unused cards which they subsequently sold to Page's Pittsburgh Milk Company?

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Old 08-08-2009, 08:10 AM
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Your suggestion here sounds very plausible; and, is most likely what occurred.

The Page's Milk cards are simply re-cycled Bond Bread cards.....it's the only logical
explanation why they have ROUNDED corners.


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Old 08-08-2009, 09:24 AM
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Ted- As I had stated before if you know specific information (which you susbsequently provided) about the round corners ONLY being done at the Bond Bread factory then I obviously concede your point that they were sent from the Bond Bread factory to Pages Milk Company. Now, that being said I can still see a reasonable debate in making these their own set since on the header card it actually states "Give complete set to your milkman or grocer and he will do the rest. (*Photos must have the stamp of the Page Milk Company).

So it looks like we have set within a set. But I think at this point it's semantics and I wasn't trying to only play word games. I googled Page's Milk and didn't find a whole lot. I found one pdf file where they were building 3 storage buildings that would each hold 15,000 gallons of ice cream. I think I also found where they had merged with another company. I will keep searching for more on them. Thanks again for the information......
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