Last Night's Legendary Auction

[nyyanksghr]

Calvindog- I heard that rumor too. I heard I sold it for less than a mill, I heard I sold it for 2 mill., and the best, I heard I traded it for the worlds best collection of Beanie babies. None of these rumors are true.

[calvindog]

John, you didn't answer my question. You've repeatedly suggested that you still own that Wagner. Maybe I'm a bit obtuse to have missed your answer in your last posting, but do you still possess the card?

[chiprop]

NO Leon, the Legendary site was wrong.

Let’s think of it this way… I got the information from a site that was inaccurate. The information may have been wrong (turned out to be). I was regurgitating their wrong information. Even though the information I had was wrong, I reiterated the info correctly. I.E… I was right! I love being right…

[Leon]

Originally Posted by chiprop

NO Leon, the Legendary site was wrong.

Let’s think of it this way… I got the information from a site that was inaccurate. The information may have been wrong (turned out to be). I was regurgitating their wrong information. Even though the information I had was wrong, I reiterated the info correctly. I.E… I was right! I love being right…

OK Dan'o.....you were right

[Jewish-collector]

John,

Mazel Tov (as I say around here) for winning the Wagner. I met a guy at the show on Friday that was going to the Live auction that night. He had a gorgious T-206 near complete set, but was missing the big cards in that set. I tried to convince him to bid on the Wagner that night at the live auction, but he insisted he didn't want the Wagner that "poor" and/or "restored". I wonder if he will go after the PSA 8 one some day.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Alan, I would guess the "restored," nothwithstanding the eye appeal, probably turns a lot of purists off.

Although I guess if it's just your spare Wagner it's OK. Although we didn't get an answer to Jeff's question, I don't think...

[slidekellyslide]

I'm not sure why it's anyone's business if he sold his first Wagner.

[nyyanksghr]

Too funny! I assumed everyone was aware that I had sold the PSA 5 Wagner. Sorry for not posting sooner and causing the confusion. I've openly discussed the sale with Doug Allen, JP, Frank Ceresi, Scott Goodman, and many others. No secret there. Going back and reading the posts, I can see where the conspiracy theories got started! Jeff said : "I had heard that you got rid of your 'less fun' Wagner not long after you bought it."
That was the big rumor the morning after I purchased the card. The story was that I sold the card the following day for a quick 100,000 profit. That is the rumor I assumed Jeff was speaking of. The rumors over the last year were strange and amusing, and not true. I should have been clearer when I answered Jeff by stating: Yes, I sold the card but not right after I bought it" The best rumor was that I traded it for a warehouse full of unopened Beanie Babie cases. To me, it was amazing that these wild stories with no basis for truth were being told as fact. The real story is plain boring. Doug Allen had all along let me know when and if I ever want to sell the card, the underbidder wanted it. I recently purchassed the photo archives of The Detrot News, SPORT magazine, and The Detroit Free Press...2.4 million total photos. The sale of the Wagner and other items in my collection partially financed those deals.
I couldn't keep the card in my house without upgarding our security system. It stayed in my bank drawer, which was where the "less fun Wagner" comment came. I will say, Honus knows how o throw a party. I drug him out of the bank to show him off at a party my wife threw for me in February. I'll post some pics later of the night. You'll get a kick out of the looks on peoples faces when they held it. Honus was the hit of the party! Sorry for not posting sooner and causing confusion. I usually log on NET54 just once every week or two(shame on me)

[calvindog]

John, you're right -- that's too funny. Hilarious even. I don't know why anyone could have been confused or misled, especially when a) you spoke about owning the card in the present tense and b) a number of board members congratulated you on owning two Wagners and although you posted subsequently you did not correct them. Also, the question of whether you owned two Wagners sat for 2 1/2 days...yet once the picture popped up you managed to find your way to Net 54. A real knee slapper!

By the way, in your last post you did not mention what a great guy Doug Allen is; you may want to edit your post and add that.

[nyyanksghr]

Jeff- You are a funny guy! I don't know any of the major players/auction houses that weren't aware of the transaction. It was discussed a dozen or more times at last weeks National by people stopping by our booths. Everyone knew it was sold to finance the Detroit purchases. Before the sale, we explored opportunities with many auction houses...again, no secret...this news was and has been out there. Doug Allen was the one who got the deal done...great guy, by the way. If it makes you feel better about yourself, I'll admit that you uncovered my deep, buried secret that I sold the Wagner...the same deep, buried secret that everyone in the hobby knew. And if it makes you feel better about yourself, it was those darn photos you posted that got me back to Ne54 21/2 days later, not the fact that I check the board only once a week because between raising three kids, keeping a wife happy, and working 60 hours a week...time doesn't allow it.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by nyyanksghr

Jeff- You are a funny guy! I don't know any of the major players/auction houses that weren't aware of the transaction. It was discussed a dozen or more times at last weeks National by people stopping by our booths. Everyone knew it was sold to finance the Detroit purchases. Before the sale, we explored opportunities with many auction houses...again, no secret...this news was and has been out there. Doug Allen was the one who got the deal done...great guy, by the way. If it makes you feel better about yourself, I'll admit that you uncovered my deep, buried secret that I sold the Wagner...the same deep, buried secret that everyone in the hobby knew. And if it makes you feel better about yourself, it was those darn photos you posted that got me back to Ne54 21/2 days later, not the fact that I check the board only once a week because between raising three kids, keeping a wife happy, and working 60 hours a week...time doesn't allow it.

That's all fine and dandy, but you knowingly gave the impression to this board that you owned two Wagner's.

[calvindog]

John, dissemble all you want but the bottom line is that despite everyone in the hobby knowing you got rid of the Wagner, how come no one on this board knew? Maybe they're not part of the hobby. But I do have to say that your explanation sure sounds a lot like Doug's when he's explaining away his latest debacle. You guys should go in business together!

[nyyanksghr]

Jeff- I currently have two Wagners. A psa 1 and the restored example just purchased. Back in December, I had 3 during a 2 week period. I may have zero in a month, next year, I may have 3 again. I don't think anyone is concerned whether I have one, two, three, or none. Because of the nature of my business and constantly changing inventory, I hope I'm not required to officially report to you when those numbers change. Let's move on. These are baseball cards were talking about. Lets smile, be happy, and remember...its baseball cards! If I offended ANYONE that I gave the impression I have two Wagners, which we do have in inventory, please forgive me! Hopefully we only have one in inventory next week as I have a deal on my 1 working. By the way, did I mention Doug is a great guy?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by nyyanksghr

Calvindog- I heard that rumor too. I heard I sold it for less than a mill, I heard I sold it for 2 mill., and the best, I heard I traded it for the worlds best collection of Beanie babies. None of these rumors are true.

Matt, not to mention this post, which clearly everyone should have interpreted as a statement that he had sold the card. I mean it's so damn obvious. In the immortal words of Joe South

Oh the games people play, now
Every night and every day, now
Never meaning what they say, now
Never saying what they mean

[Peter_Spaeth]

That's a lot of photos! If you looked through 1000 a day it would take you the next 7 years, by my calculations. Enjoy!!