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Old 07-25-2009, 06:46 PM
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A good fake with a sweet caporal background slipped in would become legit in an instant, assuming that Honus had sweet cap backs,and if not could be a new discovery one of a kind. Since the cert is legit who could stop it ?
I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen with this one. As Rob had pointed out earlier, with so many fakes out there, now you have a legit cert floating around. Now all you need is someone to slip in the fake Wagner and there you go.

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Old 07-25-2009, 07:32 PM
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I just emailed Cosetta Robbins at PSA, letting her know about the card, and to see if they can invalidate the cert number and correct the population report.


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Old 07-25-2009, 08:45 PM
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Good. The cert needs to be updated at least.
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I just emailed Cosetta Robbins at PSA, letting her know about the card, and to see if they can invalidate the cert number and correct the population report.
Interesting. I think we all agree this needs to be fixed, but can they just invalidate a cert thats in someone's possession without their permission? The better solution may be to just to fix the cert in the system so that when someone checks it they see Heinie and not Honus.
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The seller knows that it is Heinie. It would be better if he were straightforward and listed the card as a PSA screwup.

PSA should buy the card to fix it. If I had the card in that slab I'd either keep it, as a reminder of not having blind faith in slabbing, or I'd offer it to PSA at a serious price (but less that 1.5k). PSA should jump at the chance of buying it back, but I doubt that they would. And if they didn't, then I'd try to list it on eBay a few times with a high reserve...

Stuff like this makes the hobby seem like a racket to outsiders and newcomers. And that may be a part of what it has become. That's a shame.

If someone had busted the card out of the slab, then listed that card as Honus, what then would we be saying??
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"Stuff like this makes the hobby seem like a racket to outsiders and newcomers. And that may be a part of what it has become. That's a shame."

That about sums it up.
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Interesting. I think we all agree this needs to be fixed, but can they just invalidate a cert thats in someone's possession without their permission? The better solution may be to just to fix the cert in the system so that when someone checks it they see Heinie and not Honus.


I remember one other instance where PSA incorrectly labeled a Heinie as a Honus. If I further remember correctly, they invalidated the certification number in that case. I believe it was their way of trying to induce the owner to send the card back to them for correction of the flip.


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I remember one other instance where PSA incorrectly labeled a Heinie as a Honus. If I further remember correctly, they invalidated the certification number in that case. I believe it was their way of trying to induce the owner to send the card back to them for correction of the flip.


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So it has happened at least twice? Nice!
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Here is the card from the last time this happened.

We all make mistakes. Usually, we learn from them. One would think that the busiest grading service in the world would recognize the most famous card in the world.
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Egads, the PSA 4 Honus (Heinie) Wagner ended up selling for $255.00
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I just emailed Cosetta Robbins at PSA, letting her know about the card, and to see if they can invalidate the cert number and correct the population report.


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Did you ever get a reply from PSA?
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Did you ever get a reply from PSA?


I got an email this past monday thanking me and saying they were trying to contact the seller to get it fixed.


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Five weeks later and Honus remains!

http://www.psacard.com/Cert/14442551.html
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This cert still says Honus. Unbelievable.
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Default I would think...

that if you had a raw Honus reprint, doctored and dirtied up and ready to go, you would certainly pay at least a $1500 BIN to get that slab and flip.

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