PSA Honus boo boo

[Tcards-Please]

Well I will not do any business with Steeler-Man at TNT Collectibles. Having been around long enough, he is well aware of what he is doing. It's people like this, that give the hobby a bad name.

[Rob D.]

In regard to giving the hobby a bad name, I'd place this eBay ad pretty far down on the list.

However, if I were an outsider looking in and saw a T206 common identified by one of the two leading grading companies as the most famous baseball card in existence, I might have serious questions about "the hobby."

[slantycouch]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

However, if I were an outsider looking in and saw a T206 common identified by one of the two leading grading companies as the most famous baseball card in existence, I might have serious questions about "the hobby."

I think it could certainly be confusing to an 'outsider'.

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

In regard to giving the hobby a bad name, I'd place this eBay ad pretty far down on the list.

However, if I were an outsider looking in and saw a T206 common identified by one of the two leading grading companies as the most famous baseball card in existence, I might have serious questions about "the hobby."

The only difference between the two is one was created by accident and the other one isn't. I can overlook an accident more than I can handle someone being COMPLETELY dishonest in their listing. The seller should have returned the card to PSA for correction.

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Frank

[Rob D.]

Come on, Frank. He's not being "COMPLETELY" dishonest. He doesn't try to pass it off as a Honus Wagner and he shows a clear scan of what he's selling.

Is the ad annoying? Of course. But my guess is it would take about 2 minutes searching eBay listings of baseball cards to find far, far worse.

If you have an issue with the seller and want to trash him, fine. But call it for what it is and throttle back on the hyperbole.

Edited to add: Because of the large number of collectors who dislike PSA, the seller likely would have done far better to market this as another PSA mistake (and a really embarrassing one, to boot), which has a Honus Wagner tie-in. My guess is he would have had a large number of bidders who wouldn't mind owning the card/slab as a funny conversation piece.

That's certainly the route I would have taken. (And in my opinion, the owner of the card has no obligation to return it to PSA for a correction. I place far more responsibility on PSA -- and SGC -- to make sure that laughable errors like this do not leave their shops.)

[Tcards-Please]

Rob,

We apparently see this differently. This quote is taken directly from the sellers description: "This is an Original 1909-11 T206 Tobacco card of Honus (aka Heinie) Wagner (Bat on Right Shoulder Variation) from the Boston Red Sox." Who is being dishonest? With that, there is a seller selling a PSA 6 T-206 with a "Buy It Now" of $300.00. The seller in question in this thread has a PSA 4 with a "buy it now" of $1500.00. Although the seller has no requirement to send back to PSA, to keep this crap from making it's way through the hobby, it would probably be in the best interest.

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Frank

[Rob D.]

Frank,

Take my advice: Peruse eBay listings for vintage baseball cards for a half-hour and see what you find (including utterly ridiculous Buy It Nows). I guarantee you will see a large number of fakes being passed off as originals and listings with scans so blurry you cannot tell what you are bidding on. If you think that this listing is on par with those, then you're right: We see things differently.

As far as you linking an unreasonable Buy It Now price with being dishonest, I'm not going to even try to figure that out. Truth be told, my guess is you don't like the seller, which is certainly your right, and are trying to make this into something bigger than what it is.

With that, I'm done with this topic.

Take care,

Rob

[dennis]

psa should buy it for $1500.00! what an embaressment! even to card graders.