This is why I use SGC only

[GehrigFan]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Mike- there actually was a grading service that used an 11 for cards that were removed from unopened packs with white gloves on the premises. I don't remember the details.

SCD (the original version run by Krause, not after they sold it) had the "bonus " grade of 11. Not sure I ever saw one, but I know they advertised it.

[Jim VB]

Here's what you're looking for!

[kcohen]

I am going to dissent, at least in part. The possibly misleading numbers aside, there is an aspect of this approach that I find appealing. Gone are the inherent subjectivity and blatant inconsistencies of the numerical grading system. I don't much care for the grading thing in the first place, I admit it. But I recognize the need for it in the internet world. I would love to see a recognized and accepted system whereby cards would be slabbed authentic and unaltered only - allowing the collector to discern value and appeal based on aesthetics instead of some near invisible technical flaw in the paper. We wouldn't have to endure all of the "strong for the grade" or "severely undergraded'' crap. Maybe the credo "buy the card, not the holder" wouldn't ring so hollow anymore.

Of course, none of this could ever happen since the paper graders' ox would be gored.

Just one man's point of view.

[Bamacollection]

I am a little late getting in on this one, but I can't believe no one has stated what I feel is the basic foundation of any purchase...Know What You Are Buying! With todays advanced zoom features on almost every computer, you can easily justify or dismantle a grade on any slab. I am not at all offended by Beckett's approach to "why" BCCG exists. It again is the eBay dirtbag dealers who exploit the system. Maybe Beckett could limit the service to modern cards only. Or maybe we can all take a good look at the product in the slab. I have never submitted a card to BVG, but I feel Mark A. and his team are very capeble of providing a top notch grading sevice. In my experience with BVG cards, none have crossed to a lower grade, infact, most have received small upgrades. Why haven't I used them? When PSA became a none option for me, SGC was the only route I could turn to and trust. BVG was relatively new and GAI was going to be back Monday???? SGC has never disappointed me, other than some of my grades, and always over achieves in customer satisfaction. Yes, the hobby has turned to plastic to holster our prized little cardboard heroes. Yes, people are buying a number rather than the actual piece inside. But you can all decide if a 5 is an EX or PR/FR in the blink of an eye. Don't let the glare of the plastic or an affixed number take that from you.

Good luck and happy hunting!

[mikedenero]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Here's what you're looking for!

Absolutely hilarious!!!!!!

[drc]

Note that a few years back SGC had its own BCCG type grading for on Shop at Home. It essentially was the same thing as BCCG. Also note that the grade is printed in English on the BCCG label. A German-only speaking collector would have valid excuse for not knowing what it says. I've never been in love with any 1-10 card grading system in the first place, so tinkering to that won't break my heart.