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Old 07-11-2009, 03:49 PM
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John,

Is your 'pink' one a bit rough on the surface, too?
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:51 PM
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Rob

I agree with your thoughts on it possibly being in the sun
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:54 PM
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the one I have is smooth and has a touch of the red border at the very top left corner-also seems that the shinny surface that is on the other cards is not there-gone
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Old 07-11-2009, 04:10 PM
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Hey Jim,

Thanks for posting yours. If my card had actually been bleached or sitting in the sun too long, I think it would look like yours - completely faded with barely ledgible caption. The photo on mine is still pretty dark though and the caption, while blue, is still ledgible.

Barry, I think what you're seeing at the bottom is where the card darkens back to red a little bit. Not really swirls. My orange borders actually do the same thing where they darken back up at the tips and edges of the card.

Scott's point about faulty gloss has some credibility though. The pink border that I have is missing any gloss it might have had. So what we can hypothesize is that the card faded while in storage over time and one day, came out pink from whatever box, binder, closet, etc... it was in because during the original print run, the gloss coating on the card was either faulty or wasn't applied properly?

Makes sense, this is the first time I'm seeing these cards in a pinkish sort of hue though. Scott, you say you've seen several of these?
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Old 07-11-2009, 04:21 PM
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Brian

I think after looking at both and listening to Scott it is a matter of the same thing happening to both cards but to a different degree. There is some reaction with the red border and the surface that makes this happen. I don't think either card has been bleached now that Scott has said he has seen many T210s like this.

This was probably caused in storage some how-we know they have been stored somewhere for 100 years... really kool we have 2 to compare and hopefully we will see more in this thread.
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I don't think it would have been bleach.... that was probably seldom or never used back then...

I wonder if moth balls or something like that would have affected them.

I still think this is something that happened to the cards after they were in the hands of the public.
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Jim, yep, I agree. I was only saying with regards to mine, that if it was bleached, the "fading" on the card would be much more uniform and not just confined to the borders.

Scott's explaination also jives with the back of the card being perfectly normal - no gloss is applied on the reverse.

Although on my card, how might one explain that blue font? The faulty gloss/chemicals couldn't change the color of the type could it?

Soooo, does all this mean that there's now officially a t210 pink border variation? Both the orange borders and the pink borders occured as a result of a printing mishap....
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:53 PM
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Many T210's are found like this, either faulty gloss that was applied and/or a resulting storage chemical reaction, probably caused by humidity. Not bleached. I have had quite a few out of the 1000's I have handled.

On a side note i did see a blazing canary yellow one today owned by a good friend of mine. Without a doubt the brightest yellow I have seen.

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