"Hand Cut" E95s

[danmckee]

Do they have full printed backs? In that case, they are trimmed. The only hand cut E95's are off of the notebooks and are blank backed. Dan.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Do they have full printed backs? In that case, they are trimmed. The only hand cut E95's are off of the notebooks and are blank backed. Dan.

Yes - both sets have fully printed backs. I thought it odd when I saw the complete set in Goodwin - a full set of trimmed caramels was strange enough; then to see another on eBay got me thinking that perhaps there is some legitimate "hand cut" way these came about, but it seems as you say, they are just lots of trimmed cards.

[asoriano]

As Dan pointed out, the E95's that have the "Hand Cut" designation were examples taken from a notebook and are blank backed.

The E95's in Goodwin appear to be trimmed (albeit, beautiful examples).

[tbob]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Do they have full printed backs? In that case, they are trimmed. The only hand cut E95's are off of the notebooks and are blank backed. Dan.

Dan- yes and no. I agree those E95s floating around with blank backs are almost certainly off notebook covers but there are other unexplained blank backed caramel cards which don't neatly fit in the category as hand cut off notebook covers, etc. I own what at first glance appears to be a hand cut E95 Chance and a hand cut E96 Kling but both have a different team designation at the bottom although using the identical picture. There is one more of these known (Davis), Gabrinus (Jerry) sold it to Keith Olberman about 10 years ago. These 3 appear to possibly be proofs of a set which was going to be released in 1913 (the team designations of Kling Boston and Chance New York and Davis Cleveland narrow this down as Kling was traded and played for the Braves in 1912, Davis was traded to Cleveland and played for the Naps in 1912 and Chance became the NY manager after the 1912 season) but apparently the plan was abandoned.

[canjond]

Originally Posted by tbob

Dan- yes and no. I agree those E95s floating around with blank backs are almost certainly off notebook covers but there are other unexplained blank backed caramel cards which don't neatly fit in the category as hand cut off notebook covers, etc. I own what at first glance appears to be a hand cut E95 Chance and a hand cut E96 Kling but both have a different team designation at the bottom although using the identical picture. There is one more of these known (Davis), Gabrinus (Jerry) sold it to Keith Olberman about 10 years ago. These 3 appear to possibly be proofs of a set which was going to be released in 1913 (the team designations of Kling Boston and Chance New York and Davis Cleveland narrow this down as Kling was traded and played for the Braves in 1912, Davis was traded to Cleveland and played for the Naps in 1912 and Chance became the NY manager after the 1912 season) but apparently the plan was abandoned.

I remember seeing this card on Pete's site. Do you have a scan you could post here? I'd love to see it again.

[gabrinus]

Let me see if I can find that scan of Davis on another computer. If I come across it I will post it. Unless Olberman is reading and wants to post it.