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Old 07-04-2009, 11:19 AM
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I can't find it anywhere, but I thought I remembered Hunt Auctions selling off Harry Wright's stolen will around 1998. Anyone remember that or have anything on that?

I know there was a whole scandal with stolen Hall of Famer wills. How ironic would it be if Hunt sold the very will that proved the rightful ownership of the letters being sold now?
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:34 PM
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The stolen wills were part of material linked back to a card dealer who was a prominent advertiser from New York in the late 1980's and early 1990's who is no longer in the business.

I could not find any google links about this but I thought I remembered this whole story either in SCD or in Trade Fax (perhaps Bob L can help)

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Old 07-04-2009, 10:11 PM
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The stolen wills were part of material linked back to a card dealer who was a prominent advertiser from New York in the late 1980's and early 1990's who is no longer in the business.

I could not find any google links about this but I thought I remembered this whole story either in SCD or in Trade Fax (perhaps Bob L can help)

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That does sound familiar. Did the wills ever get returned to the proper courthouse?
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:42 PM
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Did all of you experienced hobbyists know that the Jim Devlin letter to Harry Wright, pulled from the Hunt auction happens to be lot # 209 in the 1999 Sotheby's auction of the late Barry Halper collection? As the Ole Professor, Casey Stengel was fond of saying: "You can look it up," assuming, of course, that anybody is inclined to do any work or research? How can this be? Was the winner of the lot # 209 in the Halper auction the grandfather of the Hunt consignor? I am confident that you will solve this puzzle. By the way, where did Barry Halper obtain the Devlin letter? Was Halper related to Harry Wright? Albert Spalding? Henry Chadwick? When all of you get a chance, why don't you take a look at the several harry wright items included in the Halper auction? How did Barry get so lucky to have obtained these items?
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:01 PM
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I might be reading this wrong, but according to the NY Times today, the Halper letter and the Hunt letter might have been different stolen Devlin letters. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/sp....html?emc=eta1
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:17 PM
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So what? How did the halper letter leak out of harry wright's possession? Ditto the Hunt letter? The granddaughter of Harry Wright is asking these questions? I would suggest that the hobby take its collective heads out of the six feet deep sand? We need a comparison of the halper and hunt letters, written from devlin to wright? will anybody cooperate? Also, take a look at the halper items from wright, chadwick, spalding, et al. and take a look at similar items in other catalogue auctions? how come a lot of these artifacts have binder holes? did harry wright use a binder in 1877?
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:34 PM
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Also, take a look at the halper items from wright, chadwick, spalding, et al. and take a look at similar items in other catalogue auctions? how come a lot of these artifacts have binder holes? did harry wright use a binder in 1877?
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That's an interesting point.
When exactly did binders come into play?
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:41 PM
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Default The NY Times had a follow-up today

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/sp....html?_r=1&hpw

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Old 07-05-2009, 06:15 PM
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I own a Harry Wright contract amendment for Chas. Ferguson for the 1888 season, that was obtained from the Halper sale. Do I now need to worry about being the rightful owner of this item, which is fully handwritten and signed by Harry Wright?

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Old 07-06-2009, 12:04 AM
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What about this lot from REA May auction? It's an 1889 letter from George Stallings to Wright removed from a scrapbook.

Why did no one ever ask about this one being a stolen letter? I wonder if this is the Hunt consignor putting this one in REA a few months earlier to test the waters? Or maybe it was found in another grandma's attic.

http://robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2009/911.html
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:05 AM
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:30 AM
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Mr. Maguire: It's great to see that some person is finally connecting the dots! I underestimated some of the hobbyists.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:35 AM
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Mr. Maguire: It's great to see that some person is finally connecting the dots! I underestimated some of the hobbyists.
I think some dots have been connected for a long time.

Not an easy topic to discuss in a public forum.
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