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07-01-2009, 10:42 AM
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I've just looked through my M114s...
None of the Cardinal players that I have show the shield with the stripes and stars. That doesn't show on the 1946 Cardinals Champions, nor on Brecheen, Collins, Fournier, Hopp, Kurowski (although I can't see his left sleeve), Marion (can't see sleeve), Moore, Munger (can't see sleeve), Musial 1943, O'Farrell, Pollett, nor Thevenow. I do have 2 Dick Wakefield M114s, he's in that Tigers uniform following through on a swing, and big on his left sleeve is that shield with stripes and stars. SCD attributes Wakefield's M114 to 1943, which may be about right. I'm thinking this symbol was on sleeves in 1943 through 1945. Red's first major league game was April 17, 1945. I concede that a 1945 photo of him could have been used for a 1952 M114. But it seems more likely that BM would have used a 1945 photo for his 1945 M114. Those houses make me think of the restricted travel during WW II, and maybe the Cardinals were doing spring training closer to St. Louis, instead of down in Florida. (Somewhere I have a book that would tell me where they had spring training in 1945.) I still think that M114 is Red's 1945 issue, not the one SCD attributes to 1952. I'll post a scan of the Wakefield M114. 
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07-01-2009, 10:54 AM
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Dick Wakefield's M114, attributed to 1943 by SCD. He just barely wouldn't fit on my scanner...
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07-01-2009, 08:28 PM
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Hey Phil,
One more image for you to consider. I came across this in a box that had some old Sporting Life issues in it. 1942 St. Louis Cardinals, eventual World Champions that year... If you look at that guy on the top row, far right end, he has the shield with the stripes and stars on it... I've done a closeup of that part of the image. I think that is Walker Cooper. I went to that HOF site. They say 1942 to 1945, and that looks about right for me. That image of Red must be from 1945 spring training...
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07-01-2009, 08:33 PM
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Do we have a photo of the other Schoendist premium? Otherwise, couldn't they have used the 1940s photo on the 1950 premium?
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07-01-2009, 08:49 PM
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Yes sir, Matt, they absolutely could have. And what we need is an image of the other M114. But it seems more likely that the rookie year spring training image would have been used on the 1945 premium, and not the later one. It is an annoyance to me that I have neither Schoendienst premium.
Last edited by FrankWakefield; 07-01-2009 at 08:50 PM.
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#7
07-02-2009, 01:46 AM
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Here are a couple scans...
That you guys are looking for. Note the hard time that BBM had with Red's last name.
Doug
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