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07-01-2009, 08:36 AM
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I knew that username was familiar - he bought a 1915 CJ Cobb from me on eBay via Best Offer a few months ago; two weeks went by and he never paid so I filed a non-paying bidder strike against him and relisted the card. I guess I should be thankful that he didn't pay!
This is where eBay is really bad - while they put some effort into looking at individual listings and transactions, it seems they put no effort into identifying patterns of bad behavior. 3 consecutive negatives from different members (or even 3 out of 6) should get you banned. This guy has 5 negs and at least 1 non-paying strike against him and still has an active account. Last edited by Matt; 07-01-2009 at 08:38 AM. 
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07-01-2009, 09:03 AM
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In this case a check of the buyers feedback would have raised some serious red flags.
Based on that I would have refunded the payment and not shipped to the buyer. Last edited by timzcardz; 07-01-2009 at 09:23 AM. Reason: Deleted an extra "not"
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07-01-2009, 09:06 AM
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I agree Tim, paypal and or ebay should have looked into the buyer a little but then the $5500 needs to come from somewhere and at that point, they would be eating it as the credit card company took the $5500 back from paypal.
What my friend has done is completely stopped selling on ebay so they only will beat him out of the $1800 paypal stole from him by freezing the transfer.
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07-01-2009, 09:30 AM
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So did the seller get his card back? If not, why was he still penalized? Stories like that make me sick.
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07-01-2009, 09:36 AM
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no card back at all, he is expecting an empty box with signature confirmation but he hasn't even received that!! And paypal won't give him the credit card info for him to contact the credit card company and let them know they are protecting a fraud.
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07-01-2009, 09:43 AM
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Shipped via USPS so it sounds like it would fall under mail fraud. I would file a complaint with the USPS. If the card came back, or was possibly an empty box, I would not sign for it except at the Post Office and then open it if front of a postal inspector as a witness.
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07-01-2009, 09:43 AM
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Scary and depressing story! That is a nice loophole in their policy. After searching the net, I found a few more paypal horror stories that were eerily similar. Seems like this scam is slowly spreading. Paypal is obviously aware of it, but since they cannot control the credit card companies......well, as Dan mentioned the money has to come from somewhere.
http://ask.metafilter.com/77638/Can-...t-can-go-wrong I think this "loophole" finally puts the nail in the eBay coffin for me. Way too risky to fall prey to this scam on big ticket items. I will still sell on eBay, but nothing over ~$150 (with fingers crossed). Matt was real lucky, "bidsformore" obviously did not have the funds to pay for his CJ (or else we would probably be hearing the same story from him). Until paypal corrects this, it will only drive more sellers toward auction houses. So get off that recliner and start working-out......those auction catalogs are going to get even heavier. Now, what was the name of that auction link by that Lucky fellow??? Lovely Day... Last edited by iggyman; 07-01-2009 at 09:46 AM.
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07-01-2009, 09:54 AM
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I am sorry this it total BS. This guy should not even have an active account. If he hasn't contacted ebay I would do so, at the very least this guys account should be killed.
As suggested I would follow up with the post office and open that box in front of a postmaster and have them write a letter stating there was no card inside. James G
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07-01-2009, 10:08 AM
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James,
It is bull-crap and your suggestion sounds good. But if you read the link I provided (just read the last part toward the end where he summaries his story). This particular seller opened his package in front of a police officer (to get a police report) and it still got him nowhere. Lovely Day...
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07-01-2009, 10:09 AM
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I just contacted PayPal and they verified all of this information. The seller has absolutely no protection in this scenario and they buyer has no obligation to return the item. Amazing.
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