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06-26-2009, 04:04 PM
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wrong
Mike Baker was not at PSA when it opened. He did not grade the Wagner which was the first card they graded, Bill Hughes did. Nor did Mike invent the 1-10 scale.
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06-26-2009, 04:53 PM
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He wasn't there when it opened?
He was employed by their Coin Grading Services (PCGS) prior and was brought over to help start the card grading department. At least thats whats documented in many places on the web. He's also credited with the grading of many of the PSA Wagners over time. REGARDLESS, I'm not here to support him... I was bringing GAI and its new ownership to the public. I do see value add as they are willing to authenticate and encapsulate cards that others wont - skinned cards being an example. So what if they have a backing peeled off... they are still real right? PSA and SGC won't encapsulte these... I believe that they should be able to. GAI will.
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06-26-2009, 04:57 PM
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My understanding is that he was hired relatively early in PSA's life but not at the inception.
Surely there cannot be enough revenues in grading skinned Old Judges to sustain a company even if it is only Mike. And with due respect to his abilities as a grader, I cannot imagine why anyone would submit a legitimate card to him at this time, given the track record at GAI.
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06-26-2009, 05:14 PM
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Peter.... Yes I agree that he can't survive on the one example I gave... it was simply an example to show that there are services that need to be provided.
I'm actually hoping that somehow by having others do it, possibly PSA or SGC will adopt some of the practices. PSA is my personal choice and all my collection is PSA graded. I love the look of slabbed cards and the protection and labeling, thus this is my only choice for my 300+ skinned/severely trimmed OJs etc....
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06-26-2009, 05:15 PM
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Understood it was just an example, but it may be a unique one -- there really is not much of a gap left to fill in my opinion.
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06-26-2009, 05:20 PM
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Peter...
An advantage they'll have to PSA is customer service... SGC will always be the best though for customer service. In terms of fees, some hate joining PSA and/or paying their fees. No membership and $6 a card for GAI may appeal to a bunch.
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06-27-2009, 01:34 PM
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Just want to clarify that BVG has graded and will continue to grade these cards for over a decade. They would go into "Authentic-Altered" holders.
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06-27-2009, 11:48 PM
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It looks like a step backwards. As mentioned previously, the lack of a black matte reduces the eye appeal. I do however like the way GAI placed the labels on the top edge of the card. I'm assuming that hasn't changed. If GAI were smart they would provide a service that PSA or SGC hasn't. They would create the ALT identifier. ALT would indicate ALTERED. That way they could get away with slabbing rebacked OJs and not have to worry about people stating that they are doing something that SGC and PSA wouldn't do (slab rebacked OJs with the AUTH identifier).
I hope one of those grading companies figures this out and creates this new categorey.
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06-29-2009, 08:03 AM
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To reiterate... BVG distinguishes between "Authentic" and "Altered". "Authentic" indicates an untampered original card that is usually not assigned a numerical grade at the submitter's request, whereas an "Authentic-Altered" grade indicates a card that is real, but somehow doctored.
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