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Old 06-26-2009, 01:40 PM
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Anthony... if it wasn't either skinned or rebacked... shouldn't it be getting a number grade in most cases?

Look at SGC... they give every OJ a number grade no matter how bad the card is unless its trimmed. But they don't tell you its trimmed either.
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Old 06-26-2009, 02:18 PM
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No Barry,

They'll grade a rebacked OJ as a 2 and then tell you to send it back and then give it a authentic grade, but not refund you the money they said they were going to.


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Old 06-26-2009, 02:22 PM
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Rob,

They are under brand new ownership, Mike Baker, who was the very first employee of PSA. He designed the original PSA 1 - 10 scale when PSA first opened.

I think the older days and practices of GAI are over now. This new ownership has great plans.

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Old 06-26-2009, 02:27 PM
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Eric,

Mike Baker is the very person who emailed me and promised me he "would do the right thing" and told me in person at the national that I would receive me money by the end of last summer.

How many lessons do people have to learn with GAI and why would anyone use this service?


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Old 06-26-2009, 04:04 PM
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Mike Baker was not at PSA when it opened. He did not grade the Wagner which was the first card they graded, Bill Hughes did. Nor did Mike invent the 1-10 scale.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:53 PM
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He wasn't there when it opened?

He was employed by their Coin Grading Services (PCGS) prior and was brought over to help start the card grading department. At least thats whats documented in many places on the web. He's also credited with the grading of many of the PSA Wagners over time.

REGARDLESS, I'm not here to support him... I was bringing GAI and its new ownership to the public.

I do see value add as they are willing to authenticate and encapsulate cards that others wont - skinned cards being an example. So what if they have a backing peeled off... they are still real right? PSA and SGC won't encapsulte these... I believe that they should be able to. GAI will.
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My understanding is that he was hired relatively early in PSA's life but not at the inception.

Surely there cannot be enough revenues in grading skinned Old Judges to sustain a company even if it is only Mike. And with due respect to his abilities as a grader, I cannot imagine why anyone would submit a legitimate card to him at this time, given the track record at GAI.
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