'William Tell Research' Autograph Authentication?

jeffects · #1 06-18-2009, 07:05 PM

Dan, I apologize because I thought you would have bounced me "post haste" I have to hand it to you, although I'm surprised, I have to thank you for fairness when I thought it was non-existant. I was wrong. I don'y know who Garo is either. No knowledge of him. Thanks for being fair.

Jeff Clark

slidekellyslide · #2 06-18-2009, 07:12 PM

Thanks Jeff, apology accepted. I still don't think the other poster was referring to you, but I see how you could have interpreted it that way. You can pretty much say what you want here if you put your name on your post, but try not to take it on a personal level and everything is fine.

Thanks.

jeffects · #3 06-18-2009, 07:21 PM

Thanks Dan,

I would like to be a part of this site, and appreciate the responsibility equated with that, Also the honesty that you allow. I've seen it first hand and appreciate it. But then again we could always ask that other poster who he was referring to. I can move on, no problem. But if he blatantly lied, do you have a problem with that?

slidekellyslide · #4 06-18-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffects

Thanks Dan,

I would like to be a part of this site, and appreciate the responsibility equated with that, Also the honesty that you allow. I've seen it first hansd and appreciate it. But then again we could always ask that other poster who he was referring to. I can move on, no problem. But if he blatantly lied, do you have a problem with that?

Honestly Jeff I think that is beyond my role as a moderator to find out if someone is lying or telling the truth. I only got involved over complaints of name calling.

Dalkiel · #5 06-19-2009, 12:46 AM

8 pages and no opinion on the Ruth....

jeffects · #6 06-19-2009, 04:50 AM

Ha Ha, You're right, This thread got hijacked by a bunch of nonsense. I think some said it looks good to them. I looked at Garo's site after seeing the original posts and he looks reliable. No hidden agenda. I would certainly trust someone more that isn't buying and selling autographs. Like the 99% of these so called experts. From what I see here, If they're not selling it (Or one of their friends) It's fake. I personally think it looks good but then again, I don't have a long list of fake credentials and a web site touting my match book secret service degree in forensics. I would trust Garo more than the agenda driven opinion of most folks here. Another warning Dan?

J.McMurry · #7 06-19-2009, 05:33 AM

Jeffects,

You just brought up an interesting line of thinking with the, "not trusting those who buy / sell and authenticate". There was an article online years back written by Seth Boyd (RIP) Who took the opposite approach,and explained it quite well. I'll water it down to his basic point which is that a dealer/authenticator has to sell legit material or he'll go out of business, an authenticator only person has to issue COA's of approval,or he'll go out of business.

If anyone remembers this article and can provide a link,please do. I've got a print out I'll try to locate and scan.

David Atkatz · #8 06-19-2009, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffects

... Another warning Dan?

Maybe not from Dan. But I'll give you one.

If you trust Garo, and buy his certed pieces, you're gonna have a lot of worthless crap on your hands.

HOFAUTOS · #9 06-18-2009, 07:22 PM

I remember a long time ago seeing William Tell Research ads in Tuff Stuff and I believe Beckett also. Bottom line is when people fork out $1,000's they want the COA to be from a well known reliable authenticator. Ones besides PSA/DNA, JSA, that come to mind are Kevin Keating, Albersheims, Mark Jordan....etc...