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Old 06-16-2009, 03:39 PM
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Default I don't understand why they can't keep detailed records

It amazes me that the grading companies don't keep detailed records of the deficiencies each card has. Everything is computerized so they could easily denote flaws and locations for each card fairly quickly. If doing this imposes too much more time in their process, then my question is how much time do they spend now per card? 30 seconds? 2 minutes? What? How much do card graders get paid per hour and how many cards can they grade in one hour? Seems a bit odd to me that keeping good records would be too expensive considering what people pay per card to get stuff graded...

Personally, I think scans would be nice to have on record.

I wonder if some industrious entrepreneur could perhaps develop something like facial recognition software for cards? Such software could perhaps be used to identify stolen cards, cards that have been cracked out and re-submitted, forgeries, alterations, etc.
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:43 PM
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It amazes me that the grading companies don't keep detailed records of the deficiencies each card has. Everything is computerized so they could easily denote flaws and locations for each card fairly quickly. If doing this imposes too much more time in their process, then my question is how much time do they spend now per card? 30 seconds? 2 minutes? What? .
They spend roughly 15 seconds to 30 seconds at most per card. 30 is on the high side. With the more valuable cards, more time is spent for accurate grades. When you are talking low to mid value cards dont expect more than 30. When you get in to ultra rare and high end more time is spent.

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not to say the quick grades are not accurate, but when dealing with cards worth thousands of dollars, neither the submitter or the card companies want any questions to arise about the grade

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Old 06-16-2009, 04:03 PM
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For 100,000 cards a month, 10 additional seconds per card = 278 additional hours per month. That would require 1.7 new workers working a 40 hour week. And 10 seconds probably isn't enough time to write worthwhile notes.

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Old 06-16-2009, 07:42 PM
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It amazes me that the grading companies don't keep detailed records of the deficiencies each card has. Everything is computerized so they could easily denote flaws and locations for each card fairly quickly. If doing this imposes too much more time in their process, then my question is how much time do they spend now per card? 30 seconds? 2 minutes? What? How much do card graders get paid per hour and how many cards can they grade in one hour? Seems a bit odd to me that keeping good records would be too expensive considering what people pay per card to get stuff graded...

Personally, I think scans would be nice to have on record.

I wonder if some industrious entrepreneur could perhaps develop something like facial recognition software for cards? Such software could perhaps be used to identify stolen cards, cards that have been cracked out and re-submitted, forgeries, alterations, etc.
The problem is though even if you get the scanning recognition software down, nothing beats the naked eye in grading a card to detect other alterations. Also now they have to break into the grading industry and deal with the negatives of many not wanting change. If one of the 4 grading co. don't come out with this software do you think it would work. Would you send them a $100-$10,000 card for scaning if it was some joe schmo???????? And if the scanning reveals a lower grade than a grader would you still keep using that co?? It's about $$$ bottom line. No one wants a grade 2.5 from a computer that is made to detects subtile flaws when they can get a 3.5-4 from a guy staring at cards all day(a job I would love to have by the way).
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