Ebay Scam: Honus Wagner Rp!!!

Leon · #1 06-16-2009, 09:35 AM

The seller might have gotten email comments and knew the jig was up so they ended it. That, or they might have caught a fly in their trap....

calvindog · #2 06-16-2009, 01:19 PM

I sent him a particularly unpleasant email and received this in response -- and the listing was then pulled:

"We will send the card in to SGC get it graded. We are an excellent ebay seller and we guarantee every item we purchase as you can not ebay our feeback of over 6 years."

Of course, his comments mean nothing.

Potomac Yank · #3 06-16-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog

I sent him a particularly unpleasant email and received this in response -- and the listing was then pulled:

"We will send the card in to SGC get it graded. We are an excellent ebay seller and we guarantee every item we purchase as you can not ebay our feeback of over 6 years."

Of course, his comments mean nothing.

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Let me see if I understand this right?

He's a Power seller.

User ID's kept Private.

He claims to be an excellent eBay seller, but doesn't slab Wagner's for more money.

I know I'm 78, but part of my education were from the streets of Spanish Harlem.

What part of REPRINT doesn't he understand? ... and how can we help him?

sbfinley · #4 06-16-2009, 02:38 PM

Stay Classy Ebay.

Kawika · #5 06-16-2009, 03:33 PM

". . . you can not ebay our feeback of over 6 years."
Huh?

calvindog · #6 06-16-2009, 03:35 PM

Lol

showtime · #7 06-16-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kawika

". . . you can not ebay our feeback of over 6 years."
Huh?

yeah, i didnt quite get that either

calvindog · #8 06-16-2009, 03:43 PM

On one hand he claims it was a listing error; but then to me he claims he's going to get it graded. Totally inconsistent. And his attempt to sell a raw Tip Top Wagner in excellent condition without getting it graded -- is all anyone needs to see to know this seller is a fraud.

Potomac Yank · #9 06-16-2009, 03:49 PM

If it sounds like a duck, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

showtime · #10 06-16-2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog

I sent him a particularly unpleasant email and received this in response -- and the listing was then pulled:

"We will send the card in to SGC get it graded. We are an excellent ebay seller and we guarantee every item we purchase as you can not ebay our feeback of over 6 years."

Of course, his comments mean nothing.

I got a totally different response from him when I contacted him. This is cut and pasted from his response to me via ebay messaging...........

We are in receipt of your email. We are an excellent Ebay seller with an excellent history and reputation and most of our buyers are repeat customers and auction houses.

We are a large company with several people who list on Ebay. A new member of our staff from San Diego listed the card by mistake along with several lots of other vintage cards last night. Within 12 hours of the item being listed, we removed the item as the value and description were completely wrong and it was found by one of our partners.

We would only ask that you look at the whole of our company as a buyer and seller prior to rushing to judgment, however we understand your intent was to be of assistance.

We have no intent to mislead anyone and enjoy a 30 year history of excellent business relation and over 6 years on Ebay with 100% feedback.

All our best

- the714gallery

Anthony S. · #11 06-16-2009, 03:36 PM

Mistakenly listed the card while the previous sale of the card (correctly identified as a reprint) was still searchable on Ebay.

Bridwell · #12 06-16-2009, 05:08 PM

They don't have anything on ebay over $2000. The Wagner was listed for $4500. As their top card in their inventory it is unlikely they made an 'honest mistake'.

buymycards · #13 06-16-2009, 05:53 PM

I'm really upset. I thought I was bidding on a 1959 Fleer.

showtime · #14 06-16-2009, 07:31 PM

Got a pretty funny followup from the guy after politely asking which answer he gave to multiple people was the correct on. It was a slow day at work and I wanted to put a smile on my face to see how big of a hole this guy could dig. I guess I'm easily entertained, but also wanted to put more pressure on the guy so he knows he's being watched. Here is follow up to me, cut and pasted again from ebay messaging, nothing at all altered.....

We are sorry you cannot accept our answer. As for the email this morning, it was sent by the same young man who listed the item and he assumed he was doing the right thing. He has since been informed on proper protocol on a matter like this.

In the meantime, we did not sell the card off line, nor would we as indicated by our business history. In closing, since we are a large management firm, all of our Ebay transactions are private and always have been as are many Ebay sellers.

Thank you again for your interest.

- the714gallery

showtime · #15 06-16-2009, 07:34 PM

I've also been blocked from bidding on his auctions. I love when fraudulent sellers do me the favor of keeping me away from them so I don't have to worry about accidently bidding on something of his years from now.

rdixon1208 · #16 06-16-2009, 07:58 PM

Part of me wants to believe that this is just a mistake. The fact that he didn't wait a while, or try to sell this card under a different ID indicates to me that this had to be a mistake. But the thing about "A new member of our staff listed this card" just doesn't add up. How did he know how much to ask for? Surely this new employee is taking direction from someone, especially on a card that expensive (sort of). Besides, $36 is too much to pay for a reprint IMO. Unless of course......

Matt · #17 06-16-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rdixon1208

Part of me wants to believe that this is just a mistake. The fact that he didn't wait a while, or try to sell this card under a different ID indicates to me that this had to be a mistake. But the thing about "A new member of our staff listed this card" just doesn't add up. How did he know how much to ask for? Surely this new employee is taking direction from someone, especially on a card that expensive (sort of). Besides, $36 is too much to pay for a reprint IMO. Unless of course......

As has already been pointed out here a few times, this is not an isolated incident with this seller. He asks that we take his full history into account before we judge him and I agree.

Potomac Yank · #18 06-16-2009, 08:09 PM

I wont be satisfied until the person that hired this new employee is fired!

Oops, I almost forgot.

If it looks like a duck _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

calvindog · #19 06-16-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rdixon1208

Part of me wants to believe that this is just a mistake.

I'd like to sell that part of you a bridge in Brooklyn.

Potomac Yank · #20 06-16-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by showtime

Got a pretty funny followup from the guy after politely asking which answer he gave to multiple people was the correct on. It was a slow day at work and I wanted to put a smile on my face to see how big of a hole this guy could dig. I guess I'm easily entertained, but also wanted to put more pressure on the guy so he knows he's being watched. Here is follow up to me, cut and pasted again from ebay messaging, nothing at all altered.....

We are sorry you cannot accept our answer. As for the email this morning, it was sent by the same young man who listed the item and he assumed he was doing the right thing. He has since been informed on proper protocol on a matter like this.

In the meantime, we did not sell the card off line, nor would we as indicated by our business history. In closing, since we are a large management firm, all of our Ebay transactions are private and always have been as are many Ebay sellers.

Thank you again for your interest.

- the714gallery

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