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Old 06-03-2009, 05:15 PM
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Thank you, Jeff. To be honest, your post upthread where you said he is a criminal plain and simple is what really got me thinking this way. You are right. He is a criminal. It's that simple.

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ETA: haha JVB. The truth is that I am one of the biggest suckers in the world for a hard luck story or apology. I would be far from a hanging judge. If anything, I lean in the opposite direction. It just seems so bizarre to me that he is on here posting about cards.

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Old 06-03-2009, 05:43 PM
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The problem with banning him and ignoring him is that his site is still up and newbes will find it and get suckered. Look at how many were suckered here at first. Treating that site as the gospel. I made my first post questioning who ran it about a year ago and the thread didn't get many responses and Jim and I were way in the minority of questioning it. New people will find it and think the info is good.

If we keep him here, it will remind some of us to every now and again go check that corrupt site.

I liked my idea of him turning the site over to the board and letting someone here run it but he never entertained that offer.

He kills himself every time he writes something stupid about those bogus packs. That he claims he opened.

If I found a pack like that and decided to open it, I would have a card party, have several people see the pack untouched, then film the actual opening. What a great event that would be!!

And I would then pull out a flag card.

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Old 06-03-2009, 06:23 PM
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Joann,

OK so the petty thieves, pimps, murderers, bankers, and Fortune 500 accountants will get off with a wrist slap.

Ebay scammers and guys selling fake cards will wonder why they are all in jail serving 25 to life.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:35 PM
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Banning people because of criminal activity is wrong!!!? There seems to be a few members on this board who have been convicted of much worse crimes (in my book). So banning an individual would only be hypocritical on management, unless all criminals are dismissed.. “LET THEM TALK” so other collectors can be more informed regarded crimes within our community.

I believe banning an individual should be made in a healthy and formed democratic decision ~ Public vote.

What’s the point of being a "Member" if you don’t have a voice?
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:05 PM
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Then again, if it was put to a vote on the board, how could we be sure that high-end collectors wouldn't hack into the system and corrupt the entire process?
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:18 PM
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Then again, if it was put to a vote on the board, how could we be sure that high-end collectors wouldn't hack into the system and corrupt the entire process?

The only word that comes to mind is "Reform". Maybe voting should be held by a non-biased participant which is not connected to management or net54baseball members. This is the only way to insure a safe voting results
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:23 PM
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The only word that comes to mind is "Reform". Maybe voting should be held by a non-biased participant which is not connected to management or net54baseball members. This is the only way to insure a safe voting results
Yes, but who will vet the non-biased participant? Perhaps we could get an accounting firm to tally the votes like they do with the Academy Award voting?
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:09 PM
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Brad, I'm a criminal defense lawyer and no doubt spend more time than everyone else on this board -- combined -- championing the rights of the accused. And no one is suggesting that those convicted of crimes should be barred from posting here. The concern has to do with allowing the proverbial fox into the henhouse here: preventing Chan access to this board so that he can't continue his criminal predator ways on the members of Net 54. Someone convicted of a drug crime 20 years ago is much less likely to prey on collectors here than someone like Chan, wouldn't you agree?

Posting here is a privilege, not a right, and Net 54 is not a classic democracy and certainly isn't required to be. Why should Chan be permitted to be a part of his community when he's already sh@t on this community -- and expresses little or no remorse as evidenced in his email?
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