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Old 06-03-2009, 12:58 PM
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Who is Dan McGee?
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:59 PM
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Hey I am proud to have my name butchered (mentioned) in the same sentence with Leon and Lichtman, I will stand with that company any day. Dan McGee.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:04 PM
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I can't say that I'm surprised that a scumbag like Pat Chan would find solace in the insane ramblings of one Jimmy Scott Elkins. Two peas in a pod. Pat, I'm glad you found his site - unlike his imaginary friends that inhabit it you actually are a real criminal and would fit right in. Maybe the two of you could conspire to lift up a heavy tray of strawberries at Walmart -- and then you'll never have to work again!
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I would be proud to own some of Leon's "bad cards". Leon, please send that "bad" WG5 Farrar right over.

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I guess my jig is up. I guess I can't fool the 1000+ collectors on this board anymore. It's all a big scam guys.....Just listen to Idiot Chan.....He needs to be in jail plain and simple. He will undoubtedly scam someone else. His was not just a mistake. It was a premeditated, long, drawn out plan to scam collectors out of 10's of thousands of dollars. For that he really should be sitting next to Bubba in a cell.....
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If what I read from Elkin's message board were incorrect or not the whole story then I apologize for that. That's the reason why I didn't post what I found from his board onto this board but rdwyer decides to post those info then I couldn't control it.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:54 PM
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Pat, stop apologizing. It's very clear that you fall over yourself apologizing in an effort to get people off your case -- you think the more you fall to your knees the more people will take pity on you. But then as soon as you're let up you go back to your lies and deceit and crimes. No one could be that dumb to believe the crap on Elkins' site -- even Elkins isn't that dumb.
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Pat, stop apologizing. It's very clear that you fall over yourself apologizing in an effort to get people off your case -- you think the more you fall to your knees the more people will take pity on you. But then as soon as you're let up you go back to your lies and deceit and crimes. No one could be that dumb to believe the crap on Elkins' site -- even Elkins isn't that dumb.
Scott Elkins is a genius, and he's all set to prove it. He's challenged you, me and 2 or 3 other members of "the clique" to a university administered IQ test with each of us putting up $5,000.


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Old 06-03-2009, 02:46 PM
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Jim,

The scarcity back checklist got edited a few times with the help of many collectors over the years. I took every input into consideration and no one disagree those Old Mill bar backs aren't the rarest backs. If those backs should have been considered as scrap backs rather than regular backs then that's another story. Members on this board also mentioned Old Mill SL brown backs should not be part of the regular backs as well.

I have already addressed the issue regards to consigning the Revelle to REA in the other thread.

We always regret selling/trading out cards for things that we wanted and wished that never happened. I wish I sold my collection a few yrs ago and bought a Wagner when it was still in $50k range as well. The collector who had the Hart got fully compensated and have put the money in some other things that he loves. I don't know what I can do better here.

Regarding Nodgrass variations, I have even received email from George H. (the person who created all those fake Nodgrass variations) telling me the catching pose of Nodgrass do exist. I asked him to send his card to me for inspection. Was it wrong? I can't just listen to collectors blindly and update my website base on what I received thru email right? (BTW Dan, I have already edited the site regards to Nodgrass variations yesterday)

I really don't remember what happened to the Latham Brown Lenox back auction, pls email me to explain.

Dan, I understand the 12 Cts Piedmont pack could include fish or flag non-sport tobacco card but I pulled a t206 from one of the two packs that I obtained from the same collection. Wouldn't that be a common sense the other pack also has a t206 card rather than a non-sport card? I am curious too but just have no guts to verify. That's why I offer full refund if my pack doesn't has a t205 or t206 inside. I will even offer full refund if there's only non-sport card inside the pack.

rdwyer, you can find the REA Piedmont pack with t206 inside here (http://www.t206museum.com/page/periodical_73.html). I am not the first one stating these 12 cts pack has t206 in it. This article was written by Beckett back in 1992 (http://www.t206museum.com/page/periodical_81.html) In addition, there was a similar unopened Drum pouch in Mile High auction last year claiming there's a t205 or t206 inside as well.

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Old 06-03-2009, 03:10 PM
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Pat, Jim's meaning with the ebay Latham auction you out gunned him on is only that he saw you then as an avid back collector like himself and was hoping to be able to share many more discussions and info back and worth. Then he sees you for what you really are and he is very disappointed. That is all, you did nothing wrong by beating him out in an ebay auction.

"I can't just listen to collectors blindly and update my website base on what I received thru email right? "

I like this one Patrick, You made those fake bar backs and wanted everyone to accept your word blindly that they were from a recent discovery and were legit. But you can't accept the words of known experts throughout the hobby?

Thanks for correcting the Nodgrass information on your site, though if I were you, I would probably accept George H?b??s word over mine as you seem to make bad choices often.

And one last thing, there is NO WAY any of those drum pouches hold or ever held any type of cards. Just more insanity.

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