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Old 06-02-2009, 04:28 PM
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I agree that none of the authenticators will guarantee that the items are authentic. It is who you can trust. Someone that is 2 percent correct or someone who is 85 percent correc.That is why Bob will not answer the question why SCD is not using STAT or Morales.
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:09 PM
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I agree that none of the authenticators will guarantee that the items are authentic. It is who you can trust. Someone that is 2 percent correct or someone who is 85 percent correc.That is why Bob will not answer the question why SCD is not using STAT or Morales.
Try to understand that SCD and Collect.Com Auctions are NOT the same company, although they are owned by the same corporation. The Collect.Com Auctions website has a list of those autograph authenticators whose COA/LOAs are accepted for consignments. You'd have to ask the auction comnpany's management to be sure, but my guess would be that any "authenticator" not on that list is deemed to not have the accepted hobby cred to create the necessary level of bidder confidence.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:54 PM
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Bob, correct me if I am wrong. You know that the left hand is allowing garbage to be sold but you the right hand is selling good items. This what SCD has done for the last six years. When I did HBO special your company allowed UDA to defend themselves I was not allowed to answer them because I was a felon. The problem was I was right and they where wrong. The reason I was not allowed to answer was that UDA was a huge advertiser and I was a felon . Again I will tell you that Rocky tried to get my statement in and TJ turned it down. It is the time for you to say what you really think about CC. I think it is time for the left to get in tune with the right and stop this garbage. i would also say to anyone on this site until SCD stops CC I would not support them in anyway.

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Old 06-02-2009, 10:40 PM
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Default so, by that logic...

So, by accepting the advertising of Coaches Corner, does the staff at SCD believe that their items and authenticators of their items have acceptable hobby cred to create the necessary level of bidder confidence?


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Try to understand that SCD and Collect.Com Auctions are NOT the same company, although they are owned by the same corporation. The Collect.Com Auctions website has a list of those autograph authenticators whose COA/LOAs are accepted for consignments. You'd have to ask the auction comnpany's management to be sure, but my guess would be that any "authenticator" not on that list is deemed to not have the accepted hobby cred to create the necessary level of bidder confidence.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:53 PM
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So Sports Collectors Digest is a periodical, and basically has no affiliation with the auction company of the EXACT same name?

So you can purchase an item from an authenticator that SCD, the periodical "hyped up" from a company that has kept the periodical afloat all this time, but you are telling us that there really is no connection between the two, and there's a good chance that my item, that I won in the last Coach's Corner auction will not be accepted in the Sports Collectors Digest auction?

Mr. Lemke. You worked as the publisher for Sports Collectors Digest. How long were you at that position?

What can authenticators put in their certificates to appease the masses? It is after all an opinion, but what matters is what the educated public knows.
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:22 PM
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:38 AM
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I agree that advertising warping the main content can be a serious problem, but duly note that no newspaper, magazine, television or radios channel endorses all the products and services of its advertisers. If you look at your local newspaper there will be advertisements advertising mutually exclusive or diametrically opposed products and services. One ad for Sunday service may say there's only one God, while another ad for literature may proclaim there's none. The newspaper can't endorse both beliefs and the editors may subscribe to neither. I don't know where anyone got the idea that a magazine or newspaper endorses, or should endorse, all the products, services and positions advertised in its pages. In the case of the just mentioned two ads, the majority of editors, citizens and I bet Net54 members would say the best policy is for the newspaper to publish both ads, even though at least one of the ads has to be wrong. This policy would be saying that newspaper endorsement of the content of all ads is not only not necessary, its not desirable. Even non-Quaker readers would be POed if they found out the newspaper was blocking Quaker ads because the editors thought the Quakers got it wrong.

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Old 06-03-2009, 02:43 AM
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It wouldn't be unusual to see ads for Quaker State, Valvoline and STP motor oils in an issue of Car and Driver. However, it's doubtful you'd see 10 full-page ads for Rob's Motor Oil, which in fact isn't motor oil but rather is well known to be cans of water with purple and black food coloring added.

Edited to add: David, it would be nice if you would not go back and edit your posts after someone responds to some of the points you previously made.

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Old 06-03-2009, 08:04 AM
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This forum gives me 50x more hobby news than SCD did. Maybe ad-dependent hobby print just needs to die out. SCD is doing far more harm than good at this point...At least they could be honest and get rid of that laughable 'Voice for the Hobby' subtitle, what BS, 'Voice for the Advertisers' is more like it.

Maybe people will just think I'm idealistic, unrealistic and whatnot; oh well, I guess I am...
Actually CS, as you know Collect.com is an advertiser here. In addition to them there are other advertisers that folks don't agree with that might advertise here too. The difference is that on Net54baseball.com I won't edit or censor anything anyone says...unless an anonymous troll gets in. I am not sure this forum would be the same if you couldn't say what you want to. I, or the other moderators, won't tell anyone what to say or not to say. That being said everyone is liable for what they say. And as DRC said, I don't always agree with an advertiser or a forum member. I have my own views on stuff. best regards
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:23 AM
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http://www.myccsa.com/Lot/194/new-yo...frischetc.aspx

They keep right on rocking. Yeah, thats about as likely to be real, as me winning SUPER LOTTO.
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