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Old 05-31-2009, 02:00 PM
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you had a collection of 2000 t206s in grade 4,5,6 & 7? What year was this? can you please give some details?
I would love to hear about this collection.
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Old 05-31-2009, 04:54 PM
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you had a collection of 2000 t206s in grade 4,5,6 & 7? What year was this? can you please give some details?
I would love to hear about this collection.
Going through the 40 some odd pages that represented my T206 efforts of yore brings back many fond memories. Like the time I traded a 53 Bowman color set to this guy in Virginia for some 700+ T206's to the time I purchased all four Cobbs from Lew, all ex or better, for about $2,500 to buying my St. Louis Demmitt (or was it O'Hara) at a Gloria Rothstein White Plaines show from Barry (though he doesn't remember) in the early 80's.

The heyday of my T206 collecting ran from about 1981 to 1988. I was kind of obsessed. I stored my 1500+ duplicates in those little glassine envelopes that stamp collectors use. I think I learned that from either Lew or Barry.

Don't be confused by the assigned grades. None of my cards were professionally graded and I had my own grading system where a "1" was mint, "2" near mint, etc. My set -4 averaged Ex+

By the late 90's around the time that ebay started my interest had started to wane and I started selling the cards. While I don't think it was a T206 this is my very first feedback on ebay:

"Accurate grading, fast delievery, what more could you want!! sb1 ( 4797) Feb-14-98 16:17"

Thanks Scott!

Well that's the short version. I'm down to about 100 now, all SGC graded.
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Old 06-01-2009, 06:39 AM
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Default Steve M......

Thanks for sharing your T206 story with us.
And, DITTO....to what you said......
"The heyday of my T206 collecting ran from about 1981 to 1988."

That's the same time frame when I started collecting T206's. As you well know, it was a great time to be collecting them.

However, after amassing 1000's of T206's and a near complete 521-card set, it was not enough. I had become obsessed
with them. As is obvious, since I've never stopped collecting them.

Best regards,

TED Z
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Old 06-01-2009, 04:17 PM
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Default T206 American Beauty contest....can you confirm these ?

The greater majority of T206 Subjects (187) in the 350 Series have been confirmed with the American Beauty 350-Frame back (ABF).
There are 27 subjects that have yet to be confirmed. There is a 99 % certainty that 17 of these 27 were not printed with the ABF
back due to trades, retirements, or Minor Lge. reassignment....when the ABF cards were being printed (circa Summer of 1910).

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List of the 17 - T206's not expected to be found with ABF

G. Brown (Washington)
Byrne
Collins (Minneapolis)
Cross
Dahlen (portrait--Brooklyn)
Demmitt (New York)
Joe Doyle
Elberfeld (portrait--Washington)
Kleinow (catching--New York)
Lundgren (Kansas City)
Mowery
O'Hara (New York)
Puttman
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rossman
Shannon
F. Smith (Chicago--white cap)


List of T206's that are possibly found with ABF back....please respond if you have any of these ?

1.....
2.....Barger
3.....
4.....Doolan (fielding)
5.....Evans
6.....Fiene (throwing)
7.....Gray
8.....Groom
9.....Krause (pitching)
10....Marshall
11....Mattern
12....McLean
13....
14....

Thanks to an avid reader of Net54 for confirming Warhop with an ABF back.

And, thanks for your time and effort in tracking down any of these 10 remaining T206's with the ABF back.
Or, try to prove the experts wrong, by discovering any one of the above 17 "NO-PRINT" Subjects with an ABF back.

I was expecting several more by now that would have been reported.....but, this is still a good start. After all........

"Who knows what strange combinations lurk in the permutations of THE MONSTER" ?

....only THE MONSTER's SHADOW knows....

Perhaps, there may be as many as 27 American Beauty 350 frame "NO-PRINTS" in this series ? ?


T-Rex TED

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Old 06-03-2009, 06:56 PM
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Default T206 American Beauty contest....can you confirm these ?

The greater majority of T206 Subjects (188) in the 350 Series have been confirmed with the American Beauty 350-Frame back (ABF).
There are 26 subjects that have yet to be confirmed. There is a 99 % certainty that 17 of these 26 were not printed with the ABF
back due to trades, retirements, or Minor Lge. reassignment....when the ABF cards were being printed (circa Summer of 1910).

[linked image]



List of the 17 - T206's not expected to be found with ABF

G. Brown (Washington)
Byrne
Collins (Minneapolis)
Cross
Dahlen (portrait--Brooklyn)
Demmitt (New York)
Joe Doyle
Elberfeld (portrait--Washington)
Kleinow (catching--New York)
Lundgren (Kansas City)
Mowery
O'Hara (New York)
Puttman
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rossman
Shannon
F. Smith (Chicago--white cap)


List of T206's that are possibly found with ABF back....please respond if you have any of these ?

1.....
2.....Barger
3.....
4.....Doolan (fielding)
5.....Evans
6.....Fiene (throwing)
7.....Gray
8.....Groom
9.....Krause (pitching)
10....
11....Mattern
12....McLean
13....
14....

Doc Marshall has been confirmed with an ABF back.

Thanks to every one for your time and effort in tracking down any of these 9 remaining T206's with the ABF back.
Or, try to prove the experts wrong......by finding any one of the above 17 "NO-PRINT" Subjects with an ABF back.

It's a slow process; but, we are making progress, chipping away at the "unknowns". Can we find a few more ? ?
After all........
"Who knows what strange combinations lurk in the permutations of THE MONSTER" ?

....only THE MONSTER's SHADOW knows....

And perhaps, there may just be as many as 26 American Beauty 350 frame "NO-PRINTS" in this series ?


T-Rex TED
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:31 PM
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Default T206 American Beauty contest....can you confirm these ?

Of the 214 subjects in the 350 Series, 188 have been confirmed with the American Beauty 350 (frame) back.

Let's try one more go around to see if we can confirm any of the above listed 26 cards.

Thanks,


TED Z

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Old 06-06-2009, 02:10 PM
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Hi Ted,
I have Krause pitching..... Be well Brian
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:39 AM
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Default T206 American Beauty contest....can you confirm these ?

The greater majority of T206 Subjects (189) in the 350 Series have been confirmed with the American Beauty 350-Frame back (ABF).
There are 25 subjects that have yet to be confirmed. There is a 99 % certainty that 17 of these 25 were not printed with the ABF
back due to trades, retirements, or Minor Lge. reassignment....when the ABF cards were being printed (circa Summer of 1910).

[linked image]



List of the 17 - T206's not expected to be found with ABF

G. Brown (Washington)
Byrne
Collins (Minneapolis)
Cross
Dahlen (portrait--Brooklyn)
Demmitt (New York)
Joe Doyle
Elberfeld (portrait--Washington)
Kleinow (catching--New York)
Lundgren (Kansas City)
Mowery
O'Hara (New York)
Puttman
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rossman
Shannon
F. Smith (Chicago--white cap)


List of T206's that are possibly found with ABF back....please respond if you have any of these ?

1.....
2.....Barger
3.....
4.....Doolan (fielding)
5.....Evans
6.....Fiene (throwing)
7.....Gray
8.....Groom
9.....
10....
11....Mattern
12....McLean
13....
14....

Doc Marshall and Krause (pitching) have been the most recent confirmed T206's with the ABF back.

Thanks to every one for your time and effort in tracking down any of these 8 remaining T206's with the ABF back.
Or, try to prove the experts wrong....by finding any one of the above 17 "NO-PRINT" Subjects with an ABF back.

It's a slow process; but, we are making progress, chipping away at the "unknowns". Can we find a few more ? ?
After all........
"Who knows what strange combinations lurk in the permutations of THE MONSTER" ?

....only THE MONSTER's SHADOW knows....

And perhaps, there may just be as many as 25 American Beauty 350 frame "NO-PRINTS" in this series ?


T-Rex TED
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:17 PM
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Default T206 American Beauty contest....can you confirm these ?

The greater majority of T206 Subjects (190) in the 350 Series have been confirmed with the American Beauty 350-Frame back (ABF).
There are 24 subjects that have yet to be confirmed. There is a 99 % certainty that 17 of these 24 were not printed with the ABF
back due to trades, retirements, or Minor Lge. reassignment....when the ABF cards were being printed (circa Summer of 1910).

[linked image]



List of the 17 - T206's not expected to be found with ABF

G. Brown (Washington)
Byrne
Collins (Minneapolis)
Cross
Dahlen (portrait--Brooklyn)
Demmitt (New York)
Joe Doyle
Elberfeld (portrait--Washington)
Kleinow (catching--New York)
Lundgren (Kansas City)
Mowery
O'Hara (New York)
Puttman
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rossman
Shannon
F. Smith (Chicago--white cap)


List of T206's that are possibly found with ABF back....please respond if you have any of these ?

1.....
2.....Barger
3.....
4.....
5.....Evans
6.....Fiene (throwing)
7.....Gray
8.....Groom
9.....
10....
11....Mattern
12....McLean
13....
14....


Doolan (fielding) has been reported and is the latest confirmed T206 with the ABF back.

Thanks to every one for your time and effort in tracking down any of these 7 remaining T206's with the ABF back.
Or, try to prove the experts wrong....by finding any one of the above 17 "NO-PRINT" Subjects with an ABF back.

It has been a slow process; but, we have made progress, chipping away at the "unknowns". Can we find a few more ? ?
After all........
"Who knows what strange combinations lurk in the permutations of THE MONSTER" ?

....only THE MONSTER's SHADOW knows....

And perhaps, there may just be as many as 25 American Beauty 350 frame "NO-PRINTS" in this series ?


T-Rex TED
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:50 PM
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who confirmed the Doolan Fielding
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:45 AM
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Philliesphan

So, am I, by the way......

Regarding the Doolan (fielding) input, it was reported by a regular Net54 reader. He has provided confirmed T206 back inputs in
the past that have been verified. On this Doolan, he remembers having this card several years ago. However, he is not 100%
certain; and, will get back to me.

Perhaps, this Doolan (fielding) is being blurred with the Doolan (batting)......that we know exists with an American Beauty 350.
And, of course, the AB 350 back on the Doolan (batting) is without the Frame.

In any event, I posted the Doolan (fielding) with an ABF back in order to see if any one else can confirm it...or refute it (as you
appear to be). Personally, I have not seen one in the 28 years that I've been collecting T206's.

Finally, I can vouch for the fact that the Doolan (fielding) card is in the 1910 COUPON set and has been confirmed with a Broad
Leaf 350 back (and these two facts with most other T206's in the 350 Series imply the possibilty of an ABF back).


Thanks for your response and let's see what develops in this case.

TED Z

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