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Old 05-27-2009, 07:34 PM
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be serious......this isn't an auction site. it would be a total mess
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:40 PM
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"stupid idiot moron buyers" I guess this is me for leaving a 4 instead of a 5 if the item was shipped 10 days after paypal payment or I was charged $5 for something that arrived with a stamp on it.
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:50 PM
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No Dan, not you at all, I was refering to buyers who are blatantly ripping off sellers and causing problems. I don't even pay attention to the ratings, if ebay suspends my acct more power to them. Sorry you thought I was refering to you. Most buyers are really great, I don't sell that much but noticed a trend of buyers asking for tracking numbers the next day and if I didn't send it DC they were asking for a refund a day after that as not received. I had to raise my shipping from 2.oo to 3.00 so I could get confimation on everything because I had a string of buyers saying they never received the card or cards. If a buyer does that on a 10.00 transaction to 100 sellers he is up 1000.00 over the course of a year or months so it is quite the little scam some are pulling.
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:57 PM
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no sweat Johnny, I actually agree with you though I don't think I am an unreasonable buyer for dropping a 4 for the situations I stated. I sell myself and try to ship next day and charge $3 shipping and insurance is always optional as I feel postal insurance is the 2nd largest legal scam behind priority mail for light items. Dan
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:00 PM
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I once again agree with you Johnny, that all makes very good sense. Though if you print your shipping labels through paypal, a stiff package at 2oz cost $1.40 and the delivery confirmation is .19 totalling $1.58. At $3 shipping I cover all the materials plus the shipping charge and I am about even Steven. Dan.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:58 PM
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I've left 4s... and less a few times, if the amount charged for shipping is significantly more than they spent. Sellers should buy a plain envelope and reuse bubblewrap... Don't pass on to the buyer $1.00 for a new padded envelope.

The new system is a mess... they shouldn't drop at 4.3 average, but maybe below 3.0. Then feedback could be honest. Also, multiple 1s and 2s should NOT be offset with 5s, there should be a system beyond the simple recent average that takes into consideration multiple low scores.


I may well try to auction a T206 on the BST... I'll list it, folks can post offers. Post only if offering more than the last offer. No time limit ('cause the time limit factor on eBay, with sniping, renders it something other than a true auction). I'll announce at some point that the auction is about to close, or that the auction ends for lack of a sufficient bid. We'll see if we end up with a transaction, something additional to whine about, or both.

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Old 05-27-2009, 10:25 PM
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OK..... just to see if it can be done, I've started an auction of a T206 of George Mullin, horizontal, Piedmont 150... Rouse the naysayers!!
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Old 05-28-2009, 02:05 AM
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An auction should be just that -- the item sells to the highest bidder. None of this "I am canceling the auction as I don't think the bids were sufficient." If someone is not willing to accept whatever the highest bid is, then an auction is not the right match for them. It's not right to waste every bidder's time.
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Old 05-28-2009, 06:57 AM
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Dan,
Don't get me started on shipping fees. One of my pet peeves. I don't mind paying for what I get but I hate getting cards in a letter envelope with a stamp on it after paying $3 to $5 or more in shipping fees. That drives me nuts. I peruse ebay looking for bargains so when I find one, the seller trys to juice his pockets by skimping on shipping. It doesn't happen a lot, most of the sellers are pretty good about shipping especially since ebay enacted the newest feedback system where you can rate the shipping costs.

oh well, of my box. Back to the point. I have not sold a card on eBay in a long long time. 2 years maybe. I buy cards off ebay weekly and would hate to see that avenue die off. Another note, I did recently sell on old laptop on eBay. Things went flawless so its still a great way to hock your wares.

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Old 05-28-2009, 12:27 PM
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Yeah, I never really understood why sellers were suspended if their rating was 4.3 or less. So when was 4 out of 5 stars a bad thing? Most of the time, sellers should expect to get 4 stars. 5 stars are perfect and not one seller is perfect. I never look at the ratings anyway, still look at the overall feedback %.
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Is that the DSR categories don't cover every element of the deal. All it covers is accuracy of description, communication with seller, speed of shipment and reasonableness of shipping charges. Nowhere is there a place to rate the seller on packaging. So if I get a damaged item because the packaging was not adequate, as happened recently, I leave a low rating ... where? And the system is in need of refinement. There should be some way to prevent a buyer from dinging a seller for slow shipment when the item was shipped in accordance with the stated shipping terms in the listing. I had that happen to me, where I shipped as advertised but the buyer wanted it faster than that. And you should never get dinged for shipping charges when shipping is free; that DSR option should be auto-filled as a 5.
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I think it is a great idea to have the auction on the B/S/T Frank. Many times I have thought of doing the same thing as I really have no idea as to the value of most of my collection and have had many great experiences on the BST. Perhaps a new auction category with a one week time limit? What auction house wants to take in consignments for under $100, this could be a great place to parcel out some low dollar items.

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Old 05-28-2009, 09:26 PM
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Hey there...

Thank you.

I've stumbled upon a plan, at least for this auction of the Mullin horizontal, one that I think will work.

The bids came in, and got to a point where I figured I could part with the card. (I'd listed it as an auction, didn't specify absolute or reserve.)

Less than 24 hours into it, a satisfactory minimum was reached. I contacted the bidder, and asked when he'd be around the pc, a convenient time for him for the auction to end. He said 10am Sat.

So the auction ends after 5 minutes of no more higher bids, after the time he suggested.

"I have a bid of $12.50, going once... "

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