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[jmk59]

Wow Aric. Nice post. Thanks. And I'm not saying nice post b/c you agree or disagree with any particular opinion, but because in only your third post you were able to be look objectively at your position. I would have lost a lot of money betting that your next post would have been aggressive belligerent. Guess I'm just too cynical these days!

Thanks again, and I apologize for being so crabby too.

J

[Leon]

I am not sure anyone is against outing this, or any auction, that is potentially tainted. It's just the way it's done that is in question.

[wonkaticket]

Nothing was wrong with the way it was brought up.

Bob had enough energy to post the auction and hype it here.

His team had enough time to make and post YouTube videos for the bogus item.

Heck even Bob had enough time and forethought according to him too compare this questionable item to the Heritage item which I find shocking that Bob didn’t say hmm same pin holes and marks etc…hmm?

But because Jerry didn’t email Bob and I didn’t go running down Bob to outline my quick overview in a response to a fellow members question of an item so bad Ray Charles would have raised an eyebrow.

We now did something wrong?

So laughable.

Another side here for you guys to think about if Bob doesn’t have time to check the board everyday ok. But what makes you guys think Jerry and I have time to chase down auction houses we have day jobs too?

I post here for pleasure not profit, perhaps I just posted and went about my day not unlike Bob, and what a whopping few days went by...

Last I checked my day job doesn’t involve auctioning baseball cards and related items or cause me to post here to drive business to my front door.

Jerry asked a public question to a public post and I added my two cents.

Anyone who felt Bob needed to be emailed I think your computers work as you guys must have been using them to read the thread so why didn’t you email Bob if it was all so important?

Cheers,

John

P.S. I wonder if SCD has time to cash advertising checks from Coaches Corner?…LOL (kidding)

[wonkaticket]

Also Leon as an advertiser and customer I would have thought you would have emailed Bob already?

[Leon]

I was in contact with someone at their company early this morning so I knew it was being taken care of. It was in fact a long holiday weekend so I figured it would be fine in short order, as it is now. At this point we can continue debating or just let it be and get back to collecting. The main thing is folks learned and no one will have to deal with a bad piece. Obviously we are on the same team when trying to expose bad stuff in the hobby....I never have an issue with that.
You have your eye on anything this evening in Huggins and Scott?

[wonkaticket]

One item Leon and you?

Yep same team no hard feelings just felt there was no need for a fire drill on this one. Besides Jerry seemed on top of it!

Just sharing knowledge on the item in response to Jerry.

Cheers,

John

[Leon]

2-3 things.....I doubt we will butt heads. If you are going for anything esoteric you might drop me an email.

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

But what makes you guys think Jerry and I have time to chase down auction houses we have day jobs too?

I was thinking more along the lines that a simple e-mail, which could have simply contained a link to this thread and a mesaage of "You might want to look into this," would have fit the bill.

Total time required: I'm guessing less than a minute. Maybe two.

Edited to add: I'll reiterate that I'm glad to see the information about a bad item posted here and appreciate it. I just don't think it was beyond reason to think that an e-mail could have been sent, if only as a courtesy. Even taking into account everybody's day jobs.

[Rich Klein]

Dan:

I still have a sub to SCD

Rich

[J.McMurry]

a few thoughts from an unknown.

As long as it's done respectably, anyone who points out a fake item should never be called out on the carpet. While Mr. Lemke should have gotten an email about this thread,fact is NOBODY emailed him,not even the ones saying it should be done.

I thought Danc's post #68 summed up perfectly how alot of people feel about the SCD/CC situation. Very nice post.

while I know I'm a non-expert nobody in this hobby, it dosn't mean I dont have an opinion about situations like this,especially if it involves me possibly spending my money. My handle IS my name,directly linked to my email.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

I was thinking more along the lines that a simple e-mail, which could have simply contained a link to this thread and a mesaage of "You might want to look into this," would have fit the bill.

Total time required: I'm guessing less than a minute. Maybe two.

Rob noted but playing devil's advocate you posted in this thread many times over the past few days perhaps you could have done the same vs. pointing out why Jerry or I didn't...

Public forum, public question and public reply on my part. Bob had the time to post here and hype figured he would have checked back to see the customer base and reaction seems logical.

I sure would if I owned an auction house and was paying for advertising and droping threads on my business actions....

P.S. Jerry don't fall into the need to defend yourself with some of the folks who find fault in anything. You're not the one who was trying to selling a known bogus item in your first auction, you're not the one who owns a business which is part of a company that takes ad money from a known fraud of a company. Folks should be thanking you for asking the question and happy that I took the time to share the info I did. Not spending time pointing fingers at you telling you what you did wrong.

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Rob noted but playing devil's advocate you posted in this thread many times over the past few days perhaps you could have done the same vs. pointing out why Jerry or I didn't.

John,

Two reasons:

1. In all honesty, and of course I have no way to prove this, it never dawned on me early during the early days of the thread that Bob or the auction house had not been contacted. It really just seems -- to me, at least -- to be a no-brainer to do that. So I simply didn't see a need to do it.

2. I've got a job and don't have time to chase down auction houses.

In all seriousness, in the grand scheme of things and taking all things into consideration, I think the fact that the auction house wasn't notified privately pales in comparison to the lack of homework that was exhibited by them and the service to collectors that was done by pointing out that fact. I have a feeling that you and I think along the same lines that it's an auction house's responsbility to do its homework -- and that wasn't done here with this item.

My intent wasn't to put you and Jerry on the defensive, and in looking back on this thread, I think you both received way more support and thanks (including from me more than once) than you did criticism.

[wonkaticket]

Rob no doubt were eye to eye on this...no hard feelings.

Trust me if Bob never popped back in here in a few days I would have linked him and asked what was up. I was sure he would round back and this would be a quick fix which kudos to Collect.com seems to be exactly what was done.

Cheers,

John